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James Hardy 14696
« on: May 23, 2008, 04:14:55 PM »
Can you please look at the rolls as I have a James Hardy who was in the 24th Manchester regiment his regimental number is 14696
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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2008, 04:28:32 PM »
here's his medal index card, Manchester Regiment and East Lancs, looks like he was in the ELs first and went into France with them in November 1915

his 14/15 star was to the ELs and his British War and Victory medal to the Manchesters

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2008, 05:51:49 PM »
He moved overseas with the Manchester Regt frist then in to the East Lanc's, as its the East Lanc's  issuing Unit. They are  named to him in the Manchester Regt:


H/102/= East :Lanc's

H/104/= Manchester Regt.

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2008, 09:46:19 PM »
 ;D nearly right then !
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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2008, 09:58:38 PM »

HARDY   James   Private   14696   company C   platoon 12   page 90 of the Book of honour


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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2008, 08:43:50 PM »
pte 14696 james hardy
24th batt
C.coy
12th platoon
enlisted 12-12-14
aged 22
born.1892
occupation.spinner
resided 27 marine st,oldham
married miss alice crane at oldham register office,3-12-10
children.james,henry,born 2-4-11, sarah,alice,born 6-1-12, herbert,born 17-3-14.
disembarked in france.8-11-15
gassed,2-9-16
wounded [gun shot] left hand 1-9-17, to grove rd military hospital 14-9-17 till 23-10-17.
granted leave from 23-10-17 till 2-11-17.living at 1 parlington st,oldham while on leave.
his brother pte 4372, herbert hardy,3/10th manchesters died at home,on 9-3-16 and left him a sum of money in his will.
war+victory medals issued to him in april 1922  [2nd east lancs regt]

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2008, 09:08:48 PM »
superb mate!  ;D
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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2008, 09:35:58 PM »
according to the CWGC.herbert was the son of mrs mary,ellen hardy,26 portland st oldham and he was 17yrs old.

my info has him as.
pte herbert hardy
20755
 11th kings own royal lancasters
enlisted 1914
aged 19yrs 9mths
cotton operative
26 portland st oldham
mother mary,ellen
discharged 13-9-15.

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2008, 12:57:26 AM »
Thanks for all the info Mack, it has helped a lot.

By the way I have also found a second medal card for James and on this one it says he was in the East Lancashire Regiment. It gives his date of enlistment as 12-12-14 and his date of discharge as 29-11-18. Under cause of discharge it says Para 2a ao 6/18 and under that it has the letter W which may mean he was discharged because he was wounded. Next to action taken it says List H/1591/1.

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2008, 10:33:37 AM »
 i can also add he was gassed on the 2-9-1916
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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2008, 01:15:11 PM »
From H/1591/1 SWB Roll:

31759 Pte Hardy James, East Lanc's Regt, SWB No B49290, Enlistment date 12/12/14, Discharge date 29/11/18, A.O. (Army Order) VI Sept 1918 para A. 392 XVI KR (Kings Reg's), Wounded, Age 26/246 days, Overseas Yes.

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #11 on: June 05, 2008, 10:41:34 PM »
Thank you Mack for all the information you have found about James and Herbert.

By the way I have found a pension record for Herbert which comfirms your information about him. The reason it says he was nineteen is because he lied about his age when he joined up and he was discharged from the Kings Own Royal Lancaster regiment because he was under the age of seventeen, so he must of been sixteen nearly seventeen when he joined up, beacuse when he died when he was seventeen and he was with the 3/10th Manchester Regiment.

I now want to know if there is any way to find out if James and Herbert's brother Thomas Hardy was in WW1, he was born arround 1897 in Oldham. If anything can be found I would really appreciate it.

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2008, 02:03:02 AM »
Can anybody have a look at his medal rolls for me, as I would appriacte it as I can't get to the National Archives.
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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2008, 01:24:32 PM »
Can anybody have a look at his medal rolls for me, as I would appriacte it as I can't get to the National Archives.
there was a man in the oldham absent voters registers.
he was thomas hardy,13 fletcher st,hartford
he was either serving in the armed forces,or on munitions work.
james is also mentioned,but hes listed as james,william hardy,1 parlington st,mumps.

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Re: James Hardy 14696
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2008, 09:57:02 PM »
Thanks for the information Mack. I had a look in the Local Studies Library as I wanted to track James through the electoral register and I found out that the address he was at is not Parlington Street, it's Partington Street.