Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Men

[Glen4059]

I have today recieved details of men who worked for the Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Carriage and Wagon Department who fell (and also those who served and returned)
From the info obtained I can add the following to the list (All info is as recieved so further research is needed)

Name/Rank (Pvt unless shown)/Unit/Workplace/Awards

Richardson AH 2/7th Manch Newton Heath
Wollen JA 2nd Lieut 3rd Manch Newton Heath (Not listed on LYR memorial at Manchester Victoria*)
Jones A 21st Manch Red Bank
Ball D 8th Manch Manchester Victoria (Not listed on LYR memorial at Manchester Victoria*)
Gregory W 2nd Manch Manchester Victoria
Jackson T 20th Manch Manchester Victoria

*These are likley to have resigned from the Railway prior to enlisting (possibly have been refused permission to join up)

More detail on those who served and returned to follow

[PhilipG]

Glen4059,

                                               Great War Railwaymen

In the course of some research on another aspect of the Great War, I came across the following L & Y Railwayman:

9811 Pte H. Billington: 18th Manchesters reputed killed at Trones Wood on 13.7.16.  Buried Heath Cem. Harbonnieres.   His parents lived in West Gorton. Regards. PhilipG.

[PhilipG]

Glen4059

You may be interested in the following:-

                               2nd Lt. Karl George Ibison of No. 213 Squadron Royal Air Force (formerly a clerk with the L & Y Railway).


On the 4th October 1918, this officer was piloting a Sopwith Camel aircraft No. D9601 of No.213 Squadron and was last seen at 4 p.m. of that day flying near Roulers.  However, he failed to return to base and was subsequently listed as KIA.   He is buried in the churchyard at St.Baafs-Vijve.

It would seem that Lt. Ibison is the only British Forces interment in that cemetery and the grave photograph depicted by the CWGC site indicates that it is being well maintained.   PhilipG.

[BarkerC]

Glen,

I have recently come upon a newspaper cutting from late 1916/early 1917 that identifies 8742 Sgt Frank Willoughby Moxton, the platoon sergeant of XIII Platoon, 17th Manchesters, as working in the Office of the Chief Goods Manager of the L&YRC before the war.  If you want more details and can let me know what information you are interested in, I shall give you what I have.

[mack]

pte 2 albert,edward barton.
8 wragley st,miles platting
wife mary
mobilised from the reserve on 5-8-14
wounded in france 1914 with 2nd battalion
transferred to 1st manchesters in Mesopotamia
died of disease at 8th field ambulance 3-5-16 during operation to relieve kut
CWGC list him as 21st manchesters,this is a error

mack

[Keithryding]

Does anyone have any information on Joseph Ryding?

[PhilipG]

Keith,

Firstly, welcome to the Forum.  If your enquiry refers to 200198 Pte Joseph Herbert Ryding, who was killed in action on the 11th November 1917 whilst serving with the 12th Bn. Manchester Regt., and whose next of kin were Frank & Sarah Ryding, I write to say that his name is listed in the Roll of Honour in the history of that battalion.  He has no known grave and his name is inscribed on one of the panels of the Tyne Cot Memorial.

The period in which this soldier was in action and was killed is described in the Battalion History as the "Close of the Passchendaele Attack."  Particular mention is made of assaults on Gravel Farm, casualties in All Ranks numbering 32.  I presume that this is the location of the action in which Pte Ryding was sadly killed.  PhilipG.

[mack]

hiya keith.
if this is the joseph ryding your looking for,he didn't work for the railways,he worked at Victoria pit for the wigan coal and iron company,lived at 20 heaton st,standish,wigan

mack

[Glen4059]

Apologies, This has taken a back seat for a while due to other commitments. I am still working on the project (so far 1000 out of the 1458 identified.)

Thanks to those who have posted info above

H Billington is useful - as a team of researchers in Goole had him as a Goole resident, but I had marked it for review, due a a difference in the the spelling of the surname.

KG Ibison was known to me (another of my projects is visiting cemeteries with less than 5 CWGC burials)
FW Moxton is not listed on the memorial (so possibly resigned form the LYR to enlist)
AE Barton was known to me - He was previously a shunter at Miles Platting
J Ryding Is not listed on the LYR memorial, which seems to confirm Mack's post

[TonyB]

Hi Glen
Some info on Cpl WB Ormsby who is listed on the memorial at Victoria he was the son of William and Mary Ormsby of Chorlton Manchester and was married to Mabel B Ormsby (nee Standring) he had 2daughters Josephine and Hilda

[Glen4059]

Thanks for that, I have him as 8811, 2nd Manchesters, a Carter at Oldham Road Goods Depot
There is a note in one of the railway records that he had been wounded (prior to 1916)

[Nonnapaula]

Hello, I am new to the forum so don't know the protocol but hope someone can help me with my quest.

My husband's grandfather, James Battle Ritchie, was lost in the 2nd Scarpe Battle for Arras on St. George's Day, 23rd April 1917. He served as an Accounts Clerk in Manchester for the Great Central Railway before the First World War however I can find no mention of him on any Great Central Railway memorial in Manchester.  His name is listed on the 'Arras Faubourg-d'Armiens Memorial', like so many others, he has no grave.

I have attached a photo of him, (seated middle of pic), together with what I assume are his Army pals, before leaving for France. Also, a copy of his Memorial Certificate.

I would be very grateful for any information about Lance Corporal James Battle Ritchie and/or his service with the Railway. 

Thank you.