Hello

[Northgate1899]

Dear Sirs, Ladies & Gentlemen

Thank you for allowing me to join The Manchester Regiment forum. I am doing some research into my family who served with the Manchester Regiment during the First Work War. I was born in 162 Victoria St, Chadderton, Oldham opposite the Manor Mill my Grandmas old house and spent hours playing soldier, I joined The LG HCR and served 7 years both armoured and ceremonial.

Im looking for information on:
J. Taylor - 34791 Manchester Regiment / 368430 Labour Corps - I have his British War Medal only.
Arthur Bocking - Uncle Arthur was wounded in Gallipoli and blinded by a gunshot wound to his head, I use to visit him when he lived in Morecombe in the 1970s

I now live in Surrey and also doing some research into the Manchester Regiment and them stationed in Aldershot and in particular the home service uniform. I would be grateful for any information on the home service uniforms.

Yours sincerely

Chris

[charlie]

Hello Chris and welcome to the forum.

May I suggest you start seperate threads in the relevant sections of the forum, that will help attract the right people.

Was Arthur Bocking - 904 John Arthur Bocking 1/10th Bn?

Charlie

[mack]

hiya chris.
lance corporal 904 john,arthur bocking
enlisted 5-6-1909 aged 17yrs 11mths
worked as a piecer at parkside spinning co.
resided 22 siddall st,Oldham
on 4th june 1915 he was shot in the left temple,the bullet exited from the right side severing both optical nerves,he was admitted to 87th field ambulance on gully beach on 6th june,he was taken to malta on 14th june and admitted to Valetta hospital,on 21st june he was evacuated to England on the hospital ship loyalty[formerly empress of india] and taken to netley hospital on 26th june,he was later transferred to 2nd London general hospital on 30th july and discharged on 14th august,he was discharged from the army as permanently unfit on 14th September 1915

mack

[Northgate1899]

Charlie & Mack

Thank you for your reply's and the information on his Army No and Battalion. I have a photo of him at St Dunstans after the war. I know Arthur was born in America and joined in Oldham, I will search the forum for a bit more on the 1/10th.

All I can find on Joshua Taylor 34791 is he suffered from bunions.

Regards

Chris

[mack]

hiya chris
there were some articles about Arthur in the Oldham newspapers,these are the dates they appeared.

10th july 1915.page 7.column 6
3rd july 1915.page 7.column 5

mack

[mack]

Charlie & Mack

Thank you for your reply's and the information on his Army No and Battalion. I have a photo of him at St Dunstans after the war. I know Arthur was born in America and joined in Oldham, I will search the forum for a bit more on the 1/10th.

All I can find on Joshua Taylor 34791 is he suffered from bunions.

Regards

Chris

hiya chris
Arthur came to England with his mother Hannah,arriving at Liverpool on 11th October 1894,he was 11mths old,they were aboard the SS ohio,his father james arrived in Liverpool on 7th December 1894 aboard the SS Britannic,they had all sailed from Philadelphia

also,his father james,henry served in some capacity during the war because hes listed in the absent voters register at 22 siddall st,Oldham

mack

[pete th]

I will search the forum for a bit more on the 1/10th.

Chris, our website includes info on 1/10th Bn. Please click on the below link.

http://www.themanchesters.org/10th%20batt.htm

Regards
Pete

[Northgate1899]

Mack

Thank you I have emailed your information to my mum and cousin, I have attached a photo of him at St Dunstans and a photo that was in my grans album which came from Arthurs wife Clara of a hospital and soldiers painting plates with nurses..its a random photo with no writing on the back.

Im still looking for information on J Taylor 34791 and his bunions.

Pete Th

Thank you for the link I will have a read

Many Thanks

Chris

[pete th]

Chris, the photos are wonderful!

[Northgate1899]

Pete Th

Thank you very much. Attached is Uncle Arthur & Auntie Clara.

Could you please advise onto which section of the forum I should start a thread regarding:

1880 - 1910 Uniforms Privates, NCO - Ireland / Aldershot
I have cast in white metal A Company of 1:32 scale model soldiers. Before I paint them I am researching the correct order of dress in Home Service / Parade uniforn.

I have the plans and elevation drawings for the barracks & parade square in Tipperary which would be an epic build but Im looking for plan drawings for Ashton Barracks, I know they were similar to the LF barracks in Bury and built around the same time. I have access to a laser cutter and 3mm modelling ply which to build a scale model.

I also cannot get a definitive guide to the number of soldiers in a section, platoon, company. I have assumed a section comprises of 12 men lead by an NCO, 4 sections in a platoon lead by a sergeant and officer. A total of 50 men. 

J Taylor 34791

Thank you again for your help & comments.

Chris

[charlie]

Chris,
There are some colour postcards of soldiers in the era you are researching in the "pictures of the Manchesters from around the web" section.

These plans at Tameside archives may be of use to you:
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/rd/69bb9429-bf9c-412b-a344-2878abc838c8

A possibility for James Henry is 16266 Pte James Henry Bocking, Kings Own Royal Lancaster Regt, later 388585 Labour Corps.

From KW Mitchinson's book "Amateur Soldiers - a history of Oldham's Volunteers and Territorials 1859-1938"

"In 1962 advertisments were placed in several northern newspapers inviting former members of the Lancashire Fusiliers, East Lancashire, 10/Manchester and East Lancashire Field Ambulance to apply for a small benevolence. A bequest had been made by the late Captain GB Jameson, who had served with the 42nd Division, for Other Ranks who had been on Gallipoli with the Division. Those former members of the 10th who responded are listed below"
among them is L/Cpl Bocking John Arthur.

All I can add re Joshua Taylor is that he did not serve overseas before 01.01.1916

Charlie

[Wendi]

Hi Chris, and Welcome to our forum !

With regard to your other query

1880 - 1910 Uniforms Privates, NCO - Ireland / Aldershot
I have cast in white metal A Company of 1:32 scale model soldiers. Before I paint them I am researching the correct order of dress in Home Service / Parade uniforn......etc.....

May I suggest the " All Other Manchester Regiment Queries " board

Much luck with your research !

Wendi

[Wendi]

Hi Chris

With regard to Joshua Taylor

There are MICs for 2 Joshua Taylor's who served in The Manch in WW1 the "other one" was 17237 Joshua Taylor whose Date of Entry to France is 9th September 1915

Searching Pension records I came across a Joshua Taylor 9083 who signed up to 2nd City Bn on 24th September 1914 at the age of 16 years and 9 months.  He was the son of Lois and Wilson Taylor of 1, The Green, Whitefield.  He was discharged on 31st October 1914 for "having enlisted under the age of 18"

By my calculations that would make him 18 years old around December/January 1916

All I can add re Joshua Taylor is that he did not serve overseas before 01.01.1916

Charlie

I do like a good bit of researching    Thank you for the opportunity !

Wendi

PS where did you get the info regarding his bunions?

[harribobs]

I also cannot get a definitive guide to the number of soldiers in a section, platoon, company. I have assumed a section comprises of 12 men lead by an NCO, 4 sections in a platoon lead by a sergeant and officer. A total of 50 men. 

a battalion would be approx 1,000 men, made up of four companies plus HQ company. each company approx 200 men, made up of four platoons, each platoon made up of four sections

Chris

[Wendi]

Thanks Harribobs and you once told me that:-

A Section consists of 15 men
Platoon = 60/65
Company = 240/260
Battalion = 1,000
Brigade = 4,088
Division = 18,675
Corps = 56,025
Army = 224,100