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Joseph Locker
« on: February 27, 2016, 01:28:08 PM »
I was pleased to see that 8937 Cpl Joseph Locker, 2nd Bn, has been accepted by the CWGC as a casualty. He died 11.08.1916 post discharge of TB. Cpl Locker was put forward by Tim Bell.

Very well done Tim.

Charlie

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Re: Joseph Locker
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2016, 02:45:30 PM »
Thanks for noting this Charlie. Garry of Swarm has attempted to find his grave, without any current success. If anyone has bright idea how to find this, it would be good to hear. I suspect Garry hasn't left may stones unturned though
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Re: Joseph Locker
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2016, 03:04:44 PM »
Obit below. As it says 'Never forgotten'
Locker J. Broughton Cabinet Factory 2nd Manchester Regt. Corporal Natural Causes
St Clements with St Matthias Memorial on ? SWARM
Birth Date: abt 1886 Father's Name: William Locker Mother's Name: Isabella Locker Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Married to Charlotte Charnley Birth Parish: St Clements School St  discharged 28 May 1915 Tuberculosis Date of death Registration: Sep 1916 Age at Death: 30
18 year old printer when he enlisted in Fleetwood 28/7/1903. Previous Service in 5th Bttn. L/Cpl 25/8/1905.  Transferred to Reserve 26/7/1906. Mobilised 5/8/1914. Promoted Cpl 3rd Bttn 15/9/1914.  Posted 2nd Bttn & Medal Roll confirms entry France 8/10/1914.  Bullet wound right cheek 29/10/1914 at La Bassee. Home 2/11/1914. Discharged unfit 28/5/1915 having speant 29 days in Hospital. Pulmonary Tuberculosis originating Manchester- not caused but aggravated by exposure.  Mother Isabella. Wife Charlotte 1912. 15 Warwick Street, Higher Broughton. Received Pension.
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Re: Joseph Locker
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2016, 04:27:46 PM »
Well done Tim
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: Joseph Locker
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2016, 09:32:35 PM »
I have dug as deep as I can to try and find his grave,but theres no sign of his place of burial,its a shame after all the hard work that's gone into getting him commemorated.

his family never left the local area where he lived,when he married his wife charlotte,she lived with her parents at 50 Grosvenor st,broughton,she never remarried,and when she died on 11th January 1940,she was back living at this address,they married at st.james church broughton on 4th august 1912,this church had no cemetery,the two combined churches of st.clements and st.matthias whos memorial hes commemorated on had no cemetery either.

there is a locker buried in weaste cemetery,but that's all the info I have,it may be a idea to contact the friends of weaste cemetery and ask if they can check if its him.

good work tim.

mack ;D

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Re: Joseph Locker
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2016, 01:07:52 PM »
Thanks Mack,
I'm in touch with some church wardens and have approached Friends of Weaste. Parish records are held in Central Library with the Diocese records. I hope to pop in on the the way to the Test match in July.  If any forum members can look at the  st.clements and st.matthias funeral records for the period, this would be great.

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Re: Joseph Locker
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2016, 05:51:05 PM »
Joseph Locker is now commemorated at Brookwood.  It was quite a special moment with thanks to everyone involved.
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Re: Joseph Locker
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2016, 05:51:51 PM »
Corporal Joseph Locker's inscription
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Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2017, 05:55:02 PM »
Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn was wounded in the cheek on 29th October 1914 at La Basse & returned Home 2nd November. He'd arrived in France 8th October. Discharged in May 1915 and died August 1916. Grave found in Agecroft Cemetery and about to be commemorated by CWGC.
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Re: Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2017, 07:55:00 PM »
Joseph Locker 8937 was an ex regular soldier called up
in 1914.

His pension records are on Ancestry.

As Tim says he was wounded in the cheek on the 29/10/14.
He was sent home because of a bad cough that got worse at
La Basse.
On arrival in England he was found to have Tuberculosis of the
Lung, this was the reason for him being discharged from the army
as being unfit for active service.
Although the condition was not caused by his war service, it was
aggravated by active service.
So this must be the reason for him being commemorated by CWGC.

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Re: Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2017, 04:07:18 PM »
Tim,

That is good news.  Were you involved in discovering the grave in Agecroft Cemetery?   I take it that the erection of the usual CWGC headstone over the Corporal's grave will soon follow?   PhilipG.

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Re: Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2017, 05:55:06 PM »
Philip,
I had some continuing help from Garry at SWARM and then wonderful assistance from the staff at Agecroft from Salford City Council. They even took a pic for me.
This photo is from Garry.
Joseph died from TB which was exacerbated by his service in the trenches - albeit quite a short period before he was shot in the cheek.
This has been quite a journey and its great to see a man brought in from the cold.  I visited Brookwood to see his new Memorial inscription and will be very satisfied to place a poppy on his grave in Agecroft, when I make time to head up north.
He is in Grave 690 in 26 Cof E Section if anyone else beats me there.
Joseph is mentioned on CWS Memorial in the Cabinet Makers section.
Tim
(Edit for confusion on Memorials)
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Re: Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2017, 09:13:23 AM »
Tim,

Re your visit to Brookwood to see the new inscription.    Would I be correct in assuming that the new inscription will continue to make reference to those already commemorated on the existing headstone?   Regards.  PhilipG.

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Re: Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2017, 09:25:16 AM »
Hi Philip,
I believe the Panels at Brookwood will be updated to remove the names of men whose graves are found.  The names are not in any particular order, which would accommodate the changes.  IFCP have found quite a few names that are included on the new 1914-18 Memorial, so I assume this will be updated periodically.  I will check when I hear back on their request to see the Agecroft grave being accepted by CWGC.
In respect of CWGC recognition of the grave, I don't think they will add a new headstone.  If the family didn't seek a headstone in 1916, I don't anticipate one would be added now, unless there was no grave marker.  Other forum members will verify and I will also ask IFCP.  I'd love to visit a CWGC headstone, but the Locker family choice would take precedence if that is CWGC policy.
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Re: Joseph Locker of 2nd Bttn
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2017, 06:49:16 AM »
Tim Bell,

Thank you. PhilipG.