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CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« on: December 29, 2015, 07:40:14 AM »
hiya folks.it would help tim if you only post info,if you definately know the identity of any of these men or can add any more to their profiles,your help is much appreciated.

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Hi All,
I've been building profiles of the Head Office Staff on this ornate Memorial.  http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/war_memorials_images.php?memorial=305 The first name is Percy Amos from 17th Bttn and there are many Pals and men from other Bttns on the Roll.
There are some names where I am stuck and some where I have a good guess.  Where these guesses are Manchesters, I'll post them on this thread. If any forum members can confirm a CWS link (or not) for the men concerned, please comment. Any other information would also be appreciated,
Cheers
Tim

Here's the first guess:-

APPLETON J

Not on 1914-16 Roll. Possibly Joseph Aloysius Appleton who was Grocer's Assistant resident 13 Conway Avenue, Harpurhey, Manchester in 1911.
J Appleton Bellicourt British Cemetery Private 18508, 21st Bn., Manchester Regiment who died on 11 October 1918
Name: Joseph Appleton Birth Place: St. Helens, Lancs Residence: Blackley, Manchester Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Manchester Rank: Private Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Enlisted Est 19/11/1914. France 10/11/1915.
Born Q1 1895 Prescot, Lancs. Parents Thomas & Ann.
Commemorated at Blackley War Memorial
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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2015, 08:06:25 AM »
BANNISTER H
Bannister H. Manchester Office 18th Manchesters Private Missing
Harold Parkinson Bannister
Thiepval Memorial Private 9823,  18th Bn., Manchester Regiment died on 01 July 1916 [aged 22]
Birth Place: Barrow-in-furness, Lancs Residence: Eccles, Lancs Death Place: France and Flanders
Enlistment Place: Manchester Type of Casualty: Killed in actionTheatre of War: Western European Theatre
Death presumed. The 18th Manchesters were in support in the 90th Brigade's successful assault at Montauban on the first day in the Battle of the Somme.  There were numerous losses due to German artillery and machine gun fire. Most Other Ranks have no known resting place. Effects left to Sister Mrs Nellie Kenny and  Alice with Cousin Edith Alice (Below). Born Q1 1894 Baptised 7/2/1894 Dalton-in-Furness. Parents James & Ellen. Cousin of Herbert - below. Postal Clerk resident with mother at 190 Barton Lane, Eccles in 1911. Commemorated Eccles Weslyan Church School  and Church Memorials.

BANNISTER H R
Confirmed in Eccles Journal-Herbert Richard {Bert) Bannister
Pozieres Memorial Company Serjeant Major 275655, 2nd/7th Bn., Manchester Regiment who died on 21 March 1918 Age 29 Son of Richard and Alice Bannister, of 46, Pleasant Rd., Eccles, Lancs.
Birth Place: Barrow-in-furness, Lancs Residence: Eccles, Lancs Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Manchester Type of Casualty: Killed in action Theatre of War: Western European Theatre. Enlisted Sept 1914. CSM Dec 1917. Effects and Estate to Sister Edith Alice. Cousin of Harold above. Worked at CWS Balloon Street. Attended Liverpool College. In 1911 employed as Order Clerk in grocery dept of CWS. MEN 11/7/1916 reported wounded, resident 44 Pleasant Street and member of Eccles Cricket Club. Commemorated Eccles Weslyan Church School  and Church Memorials.
Obituary and Photo

BLOCKLEY P J

Sole Candidate-P J Blockley Vermelles British Cemetery Private 275650, 2nd/7th Bn., Manchester Regiment who died on 22 April 1917 Age 35
Name: Percy John Blockley Birth Place: Manchester Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Blackburn
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Soldiers Effects to Widow, Margaret - Noonen Chorlton Q2 1906.. Born Q1 1882 Barton. Sons John and Percy Cyril. Daugh Deborah Genes. Warehouseman in 1906. 1911 Not Found. Noted as Shop Assistant on son's marriage Cert in 1920. No CWS Confirmation.
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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2015, 09:17:30 AM »
BUCKLEY E

Possibly Ernest Nicholas Buckley Hargnies Communal Cemetery, Nord Private 48343, 1st/8th Bn., Manchester Regiment who died on 06 November 1918 Age 21 Son of Nicholas and Sophia Buckley, of 13, Acre St., Hollinwood, Oldham.
Birth Place: Castleton, Lancs Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Hollinwood, Lancs Type of Casualty: Killed in action. Sister Edith was shop assistant in 1911.
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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2015, 11:21:54 AM »
Tim Bell,

The following are in the CWS Ltd., Balloon St. Mcr Roll of Honour contained in the "Book of Honour": J. Appleton, P.J.Blockley.
 Is this the type of thing you are looking for? PhilipG.

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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2015, 11:59:38 AM »
Tim,
Sorry to go off at a tangent. Does the memorial list all CWS employees who served or just those that died? Do you know how many are commemorated?

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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2015, 02:45:18 PM »
Charlie,
There are 132 names of men who were killed from the Manchester Office and @ 600 (Guess) in total. 

Philip,

The Manchester Head Office names are listed here http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/war_memorials_images.php?memorial=97.  Many relate to the CWS Roll of Honour, but not all for some reason.  The other Memorial I've used for reference for 1914-16 losses is @ 300 names here http://www.newmp.org.uk/detail.php?contentId=8393

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I'm trying to identify the names in the Head Office List.  Census records have helped + press reports and other Memorial sites - particularly SWARM.  Because the results span numerous Corps / Regiments, I've posted the results here http://manchesterfamilyhist.proboards.com/thread/2859/operative-wholesale-society-memorial-building?page=1&scrollTo=15481

I'll Post some photos received from Ralph of GWF fame.
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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2015, 02:52:06 PM »
Photos
General View
Central Panels
Manchester Panels
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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2015, 07:41:48 PM »
tim.
if you type in CWS on the forums search engine,you will find the names of some of these men,eg 13679 a.clark.

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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2015, 08:51:28 PM »
Mack,
I've tried to cover the forum search for names on the Manchester list and It's been useful.  The problem is that I'm limiting myself to the Head Office roll.  A Clark is elsewhere.

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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2015, 09:11:42 PM »
there was a contingent of men who joined the 19th manchesters in 1914 from the CWS,plus those who joined other pals battalions,all those who joined the pals battalions were given a parcel of goodies from the company,in this parcel was a grey knitted cardigan,in old photos taken during their initial training in 1914,the ones wearing grey cardigans are former employees of the CWS company.

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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2015, 09:45:15 AM »
BUSHELL C

Best guess C Bushell Gorre British and Indian Cemetery (also Tyldesley Cenotaph) Private 18541, 1st/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment who died on 11 December 1917 Husband of Mrs. H. Bushell, of 57, Romney St., Pendleton, Manchester.
Name: Charles Bushell Residence: Pendleton, Lancs Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Manchester
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Mining Engineer underground- Farnsworth in 1911
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2016, 10:52:36 AM »
BUSHELL C

Best guess C Bushell Gorre British and Indian Cemetery (also Tyldesley Cenotaph) Private 18541, 1st/10th Bn., Manchester Regiment who died on 11 December 1917 Husband of Mrs. H. Bushell, of 57, Romney St., Pendleton, Manchester.
Name: Charles Bushell Residence: Pendleton, Lancs Death Place: France and Flanders Enlistment Place: Manchester
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Mining Engineer underground- Farnsworth in 1911

you guessed right.

he was educated at st.johns school farnworth,he then began work at foggs colliery and later worked as a packer for the CWS at their drapery warehouse,he was wounded at the battle of arras and spent 6 months in hospital in England,he was killed in a german gas attack near Givenchy on 11th December 1917,aged 31
he lived at 29 oak st,moses gate farnworth but had moved to Pendleton by the time he enlisted

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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2016, 01:02:07 PM »
the j.jones on the Manchester CWS roll was.

1838 james jones.14 grange rd,sale
killed 2-6-15 in ardwick line at Gallipoli while on trench improvements,aged 24
drapery dept CWS

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« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2016, 01:24:46 PM »
Charlie,
There are 132 names of men who were killed from the Manchester Office and @ 600 (Guess) in total. 

Philip,

The Manchester Head Office names are listed here http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/data/war_memorials_images.php?memorial=97.  Many relate to the CWS Roll of Honour, but not all for some reason.  The other Memorial I've used for reference for 1914-16 losses is @ 300 names here http://www.newmp.org.uk/detail.php?contentId=8393

Both,

I'm trying to identify the names in the Head Office List.  Census records have helped + press reports and other Memorial sites - particularly SWARM.  Because the results span numerous Corps / Regiments, I've posted the results here http://manchesterfamilyhist.proboards.com/thread/2859/operative-wholesale-society-memorial-building?page=1&scrollTo=15481

I'll Post some photos received from Ralph of GWF fame.
there seems to be some missing from the Manchester roll.
pte 2365 Arthur Heywood,9 rosamond st,chorlton on medlock was a printer at the CWS print works at longsight,killed at Gallipoli on 4-6-15,aged 20.1/5th manchesters

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Re: CWS Memorial, Old Bank Building. Manchester Staff
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2016, 02:29:05 PM »
Hi Mack,

Thanks for the data on my uncertain names.

I'm limiting myself to the Head Office. The Memorial also has Longsight, Crumpsall, Broughton and Irlam Rolls. A Heywood is on the Heywood Printing Works List.  I'll upload some close up photos with some 'local' Rolls Showing.  I reckon Pete will have Irlam Soap covered.
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