A place for PoW database amendments and additions

[charlie]

Hi Tim
Thanks once again, when I can access my desktop PC I‘ll do an update.

There are two Schofields whose records have been mixed up by the ICRC. Henry and Herbert have been, probably unknowingly, combined. Herbert 376558 12th Bn is buried at Condé
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/578129/H%20SCHOFIELD/

There isn‘t any „true“ record of Henry 27251 17th Bn in the ICRC records.

Taylor‘s death isn‘t recorded, as far as I can tell, by the ICRC.
Charlie

[Tim Bell]

Hi Charlie,
Thanks for clarifying Schofield.  Well spotted.
Taylor's service record says he should be @ 30 so the DOB is Nov 1887 rather than 1897. Then again NOK is noted as his sister rather than wife, Clara, so it may be confused with another man.  What's strange is the ref to 13 East Street / Road, Longsight; so I think it must be the same man.
I'm not sure how CWGC work here. Should the last know date he was noted as alive become the date of death?
Notes as PA 25202 & 26333.  (Are there more?) Index image attached.

[charlie]

Tim
Thats all I could find as well, as you will have seen there is no mention of his death on either of them.

The CWGC doesn‘t seem to have a hard and fast rule, sometimes death is recorded as period between x and y, sometimes the first date of the period is used sometimes the last date.

Charlie

[Tim Bell]

I've asked Terry Denham too. Just wonder if the Cologne Memorial is more suitable for commemoration as Taylor apperently died in Germany rather than France. 
Tim

[charlie]

Tim
Where does your information that Taylor 31214 was a PoW (apart from our database, which now appears to be wrong) come from? His service record only records he was missing as of 22nd March and that the PoW was 27843 William C Taylor, A Coy, 17th Bn and not 31214.

As the names in the database have not been cross referenced with each other mistakes are going to crop up and that is the whole point of this thread  , what you are coming across is very valuable information.

Charlie

[Tim Bell]

Tim
Where does your information that Taylor 31214 was a PoW (apart from our database, which now appears to be wrong) come from? His service record only records he was missing as of 22nd March and that the PoW was 27843 William C Taylor, A Coy, 17th Bn and not 31214.

As the names in the database have not been cross referenced with each other mistakes are going to crop up and that is the whole point of this thread  , what you are coming across is very valuable information.

Charlie

After much brain ache and reading the (exceptionallly detailed) service record of William Charnley Taylor, I now understand your point. I've taken Terry off the case. Thanks Charlie

[Tim Bell]

Pte 9132 Albert Taylor was missing presumed dead ay Trones Wood on 9-11 July 1916. He has a POW record.  Please can Charlie decipher this??
Tim

[charlie]

Charlie can and will 

As you know its a list dated 08.08.1916 of English dead soldier’s Small/Paybooks sent from the ZNB.

It records : Taylor A, 19 Bn Manchester Regt, B Coy, No 9132. KiA, no further information available. Reported by an Intelligence Officer 2. (Small/Paybook)

Charlie

[Tim Bell]

Thanks Charlie,
I suppose they took the Pay Book from his remains prior to an unknown burial.
It's interesting to see 19th Bn when all the records state 17th Bn.  I assume this is a transcription error.
Tim

[charlie]

There is now the latest update to the database available on the main site.
Charlie

[Tim Bell]

2336 Norman Sladen died on 08/08/1921.  See Non Com Section http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=8796.msg58266#msg58266

[Tim Bell]

L/Cpl 9274 Walter Shooter
Walter Shooter enlisted 12/10/1903 serving with 2nd & 1st Bns.  Mobilised from Reserve on 31/07/1915 (Possibly in India), he was posted to 1st Manchesters and attached to 1st Bn OBLI, disembarking Mesopotamia 25/08/1915. Captured at Kut-al-Amarah, Walter Died as PoW of Beri Beri at Aleppo in January 1917.  The service record refers to a burial but he is commemorated on the Basra Memorial.
https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=1219&h=1774837&tid=&pid=&queryId=3748caadbff0e2c8de0c147d3f6022b0&usePUB=true&_phsrc=hMb7622&_phstart=successSource