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[charlie]

Cheers Mack, anything on Church?

[mack]

hiya Charlie.
hes listed in the absent voters list under 28545 john,henry church,prisoner of war,15 kelsall st,ardwick,i checked the medal rolls and it says he was in a garrison battalion of the manchesters and then in the Middlesex regt.i wonder if he was in a POW company in france guarding POWs and the voters list is an error.

mack

[charlie]

Thanks Mack, I think that rules him out as a Manchesters PoW.

Can you have a look at this one please:
William Cokwell??, 1st Bn, taken Ypres and held at Altdamm on a list dated 19.12.1914. I think he is either 9557 or 7089 William Caldwell.

Charlie

[mack]

hiya Charlie
9557 was in the 13th batt and 7089 was 16th batt,the list that cokwell appears in,is mainly men from the queens regt,KRRC and the south staffs,most captured on 31st November 1914,cokwell is the only Manchester in the list,the 63 regt could be a typing error,theres nobody in the 1914 or 1915 star rolls with a name that comes close to cokwell

mack

[charlie]

Thanks Mack, there's nothing that comes close elsewhere so I think he's going to remain a mystery.
Charlie

[charlie]

Mack, can you help please

16082 Pte George Conlon, ICRC records have him as either C Coy 16th or 18th Bn, taken 21.03.1918 St Quentin, from Burnley.

16082 is Thomas Conlon 11th Bn, there are only 4 George Conlons in the MICs, none are relevant.

Charlie

[charlie]

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[Wendi]

Thank you Charlie 

[pete th]

Mack, can you help please

16082 Pte George Conlon, ICRC records have him as either C Coy 16th or 18th Bn, taken 21.03.1918 St Quentin, from Burnley.

16082 is Thomas Conlon 11th Bn, there are only 4 George Conlons in the MICs, none are relevant.

Charlie

Charlie, Thomas Conlon was in a draft to  that joined the 11th Manchesters on 23rd December 1915 (presumably at Mudros, shortly after the evacuation from Suvla Bay). We have the following info from the 11th Manchester 1915 Star Roll. The fact that he was renumbered suggested that he joined another Battalion of the Manchesters:


CONLON, Thomas. Pte 16082. Later Manchester Regt number, 77762, and then East Lancashire Regiment, 3380442. To Class Z, Army Reserve on 05.06.19. His medals were forfeited because of an offence committed before enlistment and not declared (seems very harsh).

Hope this helps
Pete

[charlie]

Thanks Pete
It looks like they got his forename wrong, hopefully Mack will be able to pin down the Battalion he was transferred to.
As his E.Lancs number is a post 1920 one (I stand to be corrected though) it looks like he re-enlisted after the war. I hope he appealed against forfeiting his medals and won, it is as you say very harsh, probably a decision made by a jobsworth who had never looked down the wrong end of a rifle barrel.
Charlie

[mack]

I cant find this man in the burnley roll of honour,there are two Thomas CONLANS but neither are this man,theres a reference to stockport on one of his red cross cards,he was in the 18th battalion according to his medal card,if he was in the 18th batt,hes the first one I have come across from that battalion who was captured at st.quentin.

mack

[charlie]

Thanks Mack, theoretically he could not have been with the 18th at the time of capture, is it possible he was at the time with the 16th as suggested by the ICRC record?

[mack]

Thanks Mack, theoretically he could not have been with the 18th at the time of capture, is it possible he was at the time with the 16th as suggested by the ICRC record?

I agree with you Charlie

mack

[charlie]

A bit of help needed with these two please:

Cpl George Cott?, no number, B Coy 17th Bn, taken at Guillemont and held at Minden 01.08.1916, PA 5922. The nearest match I can find is 55542 Catt.

3673 or 4 William Cowan, no Bn, taken Lagnicourt 15.04.1917, born in Sydney Australia, held at G�strow and Parchim, PA 35884. I think he is a mis-filed Aussie.

Thanks
Charlie

[Tim Bell]

Cpl George Cott?, no number, B Coy 17th Bn, taken at Guillemont and held at Minden 01.08.1916, PA 5922. The nearest match I can find is 55542 Catt.

Leaves me stumped I'm afraid.  Can't see any Book of Honour names that remotely fit.

Suspect 55542 is much too high to be a July 1916 participant.
Tim