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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #555 on: October 17, 2016, 07:51:41 AM »
Mack, Timberman
Can you help with this please

4893 John Bradlurn? or Bradport? 1st Bn, taken Kut, died 30.11.1916. His number and date of death refers to Arthur Stubbs.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #556 on: October 17, 2016, 07:57:07 AM »
Another three in Turkish hands

Is there anymore information on 2055 Robert Gerrard 1st Bn please?

A Bn and any info for 121 John H Lacy

A Bn and any other info for 2232 Cpl Thomas Maddocks

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #557 on: October 17, 2016, 09:34:59 PM »
Charlie

Stubbs  is the right one, he is the only 1st Bn to die on that date.

No John Bradport listed on the CWGC web site as dying with
the Manchester's

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #558 on: October 17, 2016, 10:38:00 PM »
This is what I've found.

Name:   Thomas Maddocks
Birth Place:   Marbury, Whitchurch, Salop
Death Date:   16 May 1917
Death Place:   Mesopotamia
Enlistment Place:   Ashton-under-lyne, Lancs
Rank:   L Corporal
Regiment:   Manchester Regiment
Battalion:   1st Battalion
Regimental Number:   2232
Type of Casualty:   Died
Theatre of War:   Asiatic Theatres

On his MIC it says died of wounds

Name:   Robert Gerrard
Military Year:   1914-1920
Rank:   Private
Medal Awarded:   British War Medal and Victory Medal
Regiment or Corps:   Loyal North Lancashire Regiment
Regimental Number:   42783
Previous Units:   1 Manch R 2055 Pte, 1 Manch R 2055


ame:   John Lacy
Birth Place:   St. John's, Plymouth
Residence:   Salford, Lancs
Death Date:   16 Sep 1916
Death Place:   Mesopotamia
Enlistment Place:   Manchester
Rank:   Private
Regiment:   Manchester Regiment
Battalion:   1st Battalion
Regimental Number:   121
Type of Casualty:   Died
Theatre of War:   Asiatic Theatres


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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #559 on: October 18, 2016, 07:53:52 AM »
Many thanks Timberman.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #560 on: October 21, 2016, 11:33:06 PM »
hiya Charlie
I have been on holiday sorry ime late with this
4893 john bradburn alias Arthur stubbs,wife leah stubbs,he was from Salford,died at aflon karahissar

121 john lacy was attatched to the 1st+bucks when he was captured,died at angora between 29th april 1916 and 17th January 1917

2232 Thomas maddocks died of disease at kastamouni

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #561 on: October 22, 2016, 05:07:25 PM »
Thanks Mack.
That explains the Stubbs/Bradburn issue.
Hope you had a good holiday.
Charlie

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #562 on: October 23, 2016, 10:14:31 AM »
Hi Charlie, I came across another Manchester's POW (Walter Oxley) on the below website:

http://archives.wigan.gov.uk/view/157120

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Pete
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #563 on: October 23, 2016, 08:00:57 PM »
Many thanks Pete.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #564 on: October 27, 2016, 08:00:09 AM »
Hi Charlie, I came across another Manchester's POW (Walter Oxley) on the below website:

http://archives.wigan.gov.uk/view/157120

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Pete

Walter Oxley was with the MGC at the time of his capture according to the ICRC records, although he is clearly wearing a Manchester's cap badge.
http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/1296313/3/2/

His Manchester's number (15916) suggests that he was a 1914-15 enlistment into one of the Kitchener service battalions.



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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #565 on: October 30, 2016, 03:32:52 PM »
The PoW database has been updated again with mainly additions and updates of those in Turkish and Bulgarian hands.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #566 on: October 31, 2016, 02:58:01 AM »
walter oxleys service number is one that was issued to the 14th battalion,which became a training reserve battalion,his MGC number is a very early number,i doubt if he served more than a few weeks with the 14th battalion.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #567 on: November 02, 2016, 06:46:21 PM »
Norman Kohnstamm was originally buried in MOISLAINS GERMAN HOSPITAL CEMETERY
Suspect he was wounded and captured serving with 17th Entrenching Company.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/288781/KOHNSTAMM,%20NORMAN%20MORTIMER%20JOSEPH

Find this name phonetically! Also recorded as Ormistant
Following one Platoon and everything around them....
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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #568 on: November 04, 2016, 05:37:15 PM »
Tim,
I've had a good look through the ICRC records - including the ones for the German Army, just in case - and have not been able to find him. Not all the burials were notified to the RC.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #569 on: November 04, 2016, 09:47:05 PM »
Tim

He was serving with the RFC when he was killed in action.

Name:    Norman Mortimer Joseph Kohnstamm
Death Date:    22 Mar 1918
Rank:    Captain
Regiment:    Royal Flying Corps
Type of Casualty:    Killed in action
Comments:    Manch Reg

MIC and SDGW both say he died 22nd
CWGC states he died 23rd

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