Author Topic: A place for PoW database amendments and additions (Read 270124 times)

charlie · « **on:** January 10, 2015, 08:03:07 AM »

Please post any amendments or additions you have here.
Thanks
Charlie

Tim Bell · « **Reply #1 on:** January 11, 2015, 09:17:30 AM »

Really good work Charlie,
The database continues to develop as a great resource.
A few items I've spotted for your next update:-
1. SDGW confirms John William Austin's original 20975 number was Royal Berks R. (He will have been part of the draft of @ 70 men I've found from Service Records that were posted from RBR to 17th Bttn on 11th July 1916, prior to the Guilemont action. The surviving men incl JW Austin were transferred on 1st Sept.)
2. Please add my Grandad's cousin Alfred - you helped work out his record. http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=7758.msg52975#msg52975
3. Norman Crichton held a MM. Gazette 30/1/1920 (Poss associated with his escape)

Cheers
Tim

charlie · « **Reply #2 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:42:07 AM »

Thanks for the info and comments Tim.

Have you tried expanding your search on the ICRC site, the more I use it the more I think it was digitised in a hurry using a different alphabet than I learned at school. Two examples out of many:

The name Ball is under Bell.
Benton is partly under Bentlon and the rest under Benton.

Charlie

Tim Bell · « **Reply #3 on:** January 11, 2015, 11:51:47 AM »

I think ICRC say the alphabet is phonetic. Manchester is Middlesex! Ridge is hidden somewhere too and I've wondered if there may be second sets of the same names. Have you found this?
I get the impression some of the longer schedules of POWs are not necessarily cross-refd with or referred to on cards. Is this the case?
Despite challenging indexing this data is great. It's certainly kept you busy...
Tim

charlie · « **Reply #4 on:** January 11, 2015, 03:48:46 PM »

I have certainly found on more than one occassion 2 or 3 different spellings of a name all refering to the same person, and also 2 or more index cards correctly spellt for the same person but in different places within the batch.

As for the cross referencing I don't know, as I am working from the reference cards rather than the other way round. Some reference numbers lead nowhere, despite being within the given parameters.

Charlie

mack · « **Reply #5 on:** January 11, 2015, 07:54:38 PM »

hiya Charlie.
number 128 on the database.r.bardsley wasn't a Manchester,he was in the 2/5th lancs fusiliers

mack

CHMrels · « **Reply #6 on:** January 11, 2015, 08:37:28 PM »

I'd asked for my Grandfather CH Martin to be added to the POW database using the information from the ICRC.

It now turns out this is not correct, from evidence I've just received from the Liddle collection. He was not at Gustrow camp but held behind enemy lines in Belgium, being moved around quite a bit but lastly at Fleurus.

Would you like to amend the database

Would you like any further detail?

Thanks

CHMrels

mack · « **Reply #7 on:** January 11, 2015, 08:50:20 PM »

number 110 on database,27259 George baines,resided 45 acre st,hollinwood,17th batt,captured 10-7-16 trones wood,last camp sprottau,repatriated at thannington camp 15-1-19,occupation spinner

number 60 f.armshaw,his correct name was frank ormshaw,from wigan.

mack

mack · « **Reply #8 on:** January 11, 2015, 09:48:15 PM »

sgt roger acton in the database,was sgt 62111 roger,george,dutton ASTON,born 10-11-1894,resided Liverpool,son of peter+alicia,2/5th manchesters

mack

mack · « **Reply #9 on:** January 12, 2015, 03:49:25 AM »

number 14.[57266 h.aelkirk]is pte 57286 Herbert Selkirk,10 criffel st,silloth Cumberland

number 65 aros mahy,is 343 amos mahy from Guernsey

number 74 albert ashton,he lived at 25 England st,ashton,wife Catherine

mack

mack · « **Reply #10 on:** January 12, 2015, 06:08:54 AM »

number 180 c.berry and 184 Thomas berry are the same man.

number 187 harry betaman is 25074 harry bateman,he has another index card which gives his army number as 3857 this is an error,hes listed in PA6115 and PA11769
theres also George Bateman PA19575.PA20648 and R53138

number 202 james Bonham service number was 12575,repatriated at hull on 23-11-18,captured 30-4-18
theres a henry Bonham in these lists PA32636 and R52088

number 241 j.a buckley.is in PA21402 and 23780.
SGT 350938 john Alfred buckley,cotton spinner,A.coy 9th manchesters,72 james st ashton,wife Eleanor

302 is 352125 joseph clayton
303 is 350265 Geoffrey clegg,B.coy.9th manchesters,wounded head+arm,taken 22-3-18,at munster[hospital] and sprottau

mack

charlie · « **Reply #11 on:** January 12, 2015, 07:54:43 AM »

Thank you Mack, Tim and CHMrels all have been updated.
Charlie

mack · « **Reply #12 on:** January 12, 2015, 08:09:06 AM »

hiya Charlie.
most of these updates are men that I found at a presentation at Stalybridge,it was a benefit night for returning POWs,from the Tameside area,they were all presented with ï¿½5,there were no service numbers against their names,just their address,i will try and update them,i found them about 8yrs ago but forgot all about them

number 309 w.collins is PA23471,PA24065 and PA28235
number 316 w cooper,PA24067 and PA25592
number 370 should be 351092 William dibsDALL[not dibsdale],D.coy,1/9th batt,aged 19,taken 22-3-18,at munster II,he was a boy soldier at Gallipoli

mack

charlie · « **Reply #13 on:** January 12, 2015, 08:59:15 AM »

Thanks again Mack. A fiver would be a nice sum of money in those days

Charlie

mack · « **Reply #14 on:** January 12, 2015, 05:36:02 PM »

Quote from: Charlie on January 12, 2015, 08:59:15 AM

Thanks again Mack. A fiver would be a nice sum of money in those days

Charlie

it would be nowadays,ime skint and the off licence is still open

mack

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