a safe place to shelter, 18th battn may 1916

[kingo]

Do you think so ? .I will send you the documents if you want to have a look-they are on my home pc so i will send them tonight if you want. If it all checks out i will email the CWGC and see what happens.

[mack]

Do you think so ? .I will send you the documents if you want to have a look-they are on my home pc so i will send them tonight if you want. If it all checks out i will email the CWGC and see what happens.

its an official document andy,it should be enough to correct their details.

mack
ps terry denham will advise you best.

[kingo]

Mack-you got mail-and attachments 

[mack]

Mack-you got mail-and attachments 

what mail/att andy.
have you sent something.
there nothing in my mail box

mack

[kingo]

I sent it to your btinternet.com address ?-Is it still valid ?

[mack]

pte joe daniel was one of the original salford pals.
pte 10868 joseph daniel
15th lancs fusiliers
parents joseph+eliza
32 augustus st,brooks bar
worked for white,wilson+co,whitworth st,m/c
posted to 18th manchesters as pte 11253 and went to france with them,on 18-11-15.
his brother james was in the same battalion.

mack
ps.i have josephs picture

[kingo]

Mack-I had a good look round the area where the mine shaft will be, last week. The crops have started to grow so it was not easy to spot anything.Looks like i will have to go back again next year  . How about a look at his picture Mack ?-go on-i will be your best mate 

[mack]

Mack-I had a good look round the area where the mine shaft will be, last week. The crops have started to grow so it was not easy to spot anything.Looks like i will have to go back again next year  . How about a look at his picture Mack ?-go on-i will be your best mate 

i will send you a copy andy.

mack

[kingo]

Cheers "best mate" 

[Fritz Bayer]

Did anyone get a definitive answer of where the possible shaft/sap was?

Reading the descriptions, it appears, to me, to be the "S Works" in, what is now the Garenne de Treize. ("Peronne Road" in the description may be a little misleading, BTW, as ,along the road to Peronne (!) there was a trench named "Peronne Road" which split into "peronne Rd North Ave" and "Peronne Road South Ave" so I believe that the events must have taken place south of this trench before the split (but still SE of Maricourt) - this can only lead directly to...."S Works" and it's associated saps.)

Dave

[kingo]

Dave, It was on my list of things "to do" when i was over there last month but due to the fact i only had a day (We were staying in Ypres) and the Brother in laws dodgy map reading skills it took longer to get there than expected. If a trench map exists for the area, maybe it could be overlayed on the modern map and it might give a few clues. I am going back there next year and hope to walk the area between Suzanne/Fargny mill and Maricourt and see what, if anything remains.
                                                                                                Andy

[Fritz Bayer]

Was that a "hint", Andy?

[Fritz Bayer]

...and a modern IGN map with the exact locations of "S Works" and associated saps...

[Fritz Bayer]

...same overlay on modern aerial photograph...

[Fritz Bayer]

...S System overlay in relation to the frontlines of April 1916...