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Sprottau Camp Manchesters Roll Jan 1917
« on: October 06, 2014, 08:53:28 PM »
ICRC R50482 Manchesters in Sprottau on 29/1/1917 (Book of Honour Pln)
Please see http://www.themanchesters.org/Sprottau.pdf for some simply wonderful photos of some of these men.  
8361 Pt Albert Alton 17th Bttn (I Pln) PA5694 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen from Cambrai 26/8/16.
10336 LCpl Thomas Anderson 18th (XI)
?7804 Pt Harold Armstrong
?7259 Pt George Baines (17th Bttn) PA5694 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen from Cambrai 26/8/16. Born Oldham.
10355 Pt George (A) Bancroft 18th (IX)
8401 Pt George Barnett 17th (V) PA5694 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen from Cambrai 26/8/16.
8402 Pt Thomas (W) Batey 17th (V) PA5694 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen from Cambrai 26/8/16. Born Heghosthwaite?
8403 Pt John Bedford 17th (V) PA5695 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen from Cambrai 26/8/16. Born Failsworth
31366 Pt Henry Blagden
27260 Pt Ernest Buckley 17th PA5695 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16 . Born Oldham
10094 Pt Frank Carter 18th (VI)
33716 Pt Dominic Cashinella (18th) Also see PA5929
11200 Pt Joseph Chadderton 18th (IXX Initial J not published) PA5696 A5696 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
26296 Pt Arthur Craven (17th) PA5697 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
11175 Pt Arthur Crompton 18th (IXX)
8508 Pt (Louis) Joseph Darnborough 17th (III) PA5697 A5696 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
4706 Pt James Donohue
11164 Pt John English 18th? (XX?)
31225 Pt William Fenton (17th) PA5697 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.Born Failsworth.
4706 Pt James Donohue.
8552 LCpl Arthur Fittis 17th (V) PA5698 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
9854 Pt Alfred Goodricke 18th (II)
34100 Pt Geoffrey Guiffette (Griffiths PA5688 Thanks to Charlie)
10121 Pt William Gurling 18th (VII)
26373 Pt Joseph Hartley
33490 Pt John Haynes
8650 Pt Walter Hibbert 17th (XVI) PA5700 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
10938 LCpl Charles Higgins 18th (VI)
9406 Pt Frederick (W) Johnson 17th (XX) PA5701 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
8200 Pt Albert Jones 17th (XVI) & Bugle Band PA5701 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
8691 LCpl Horace Kemp 17th (IV) PA5701 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16. Born Eccles
9882 Pt Joseph Henshaw 18th (IV)
10501 LCpl Frederick Leigh 18th (XII)
8723 Pt William Macauley 17th (I) PA5702 Captured Trones Wood 19th sic 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
11198 Pt John Marsden 18th (IXX)
9188 Pt Rowland Marston 17th (IX?) PA5703 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
31480 Pt Lionel G. Morse
11015 Pt William Mosoph 18th (I)
10911 Pt Ernest Muirhead 18th? (XVII?)
11138 Pt Joseph O'Brien 18th (IXX)
9468 LCpl James Ormrod 17th (XX) PA5705 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
33654 Pt James Owen
26265 Pt John Power 17th PA5705 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
8841 Pt Leonard (C) Roberts 17th (IX) PA5706 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
11264 Pt Frank Tilley 18th??
10003 Pt William Walker 18th (II)
8938 Pt Albert Ward 17th (IV) PA5709 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
8941 Pt Arthur Watts 17th (III) PA5709 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16. Born Kirksworth.
10220 Pt Harold Wigley 18th (V)

nb There's a group of 17th Bttn Dulmen men not mentioned in the Sprottau Roll.
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Cpl Frederick C Binnington 17th PA5696 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen from Cambrai 23/7/16. Born Salford
LCpl Harry Brown 17th PA5695 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16  from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
9271 Pt Ernest Aldred Buckley 17th (XVIII) PA5695 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16  from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Pt Thomas Carter PA5696 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16  from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16. Born Salford
Sgt Norman Crichton 17th (VII) PA5697 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16  from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16. Born Stockport.
Pt Raymond  A Horan 17th (VII) PA5700 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Pt Albert Kendrick 17th (SEE PHOTOS) PA5701 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Cpl John Leach 17th PA5702 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Pt Thomas Leeming 17th (VIII) PA5702 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Pt Leonard Moores 17th PA5703 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.Born Chorlton
Pt Philip Morris 17th PA5703 (IXX) Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Pt Robinson Schofield 17th PA5706 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16. Born Hollingworth.
Pt William H. Upton (IV) 17th PA5707 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16. Born Stockport.
Pt Ernest Vries (XX?) PA5707 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Pt Robert Walton (XX) PA5707 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
Pt Kenneth Warburton 17th (VIII) PA5708 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16. Born Stockport.
Pt Abel Wood 17th PA5710 Captured Trones Wood 9/7/16. Moved to Dulmen 16/8/16 from Cambrai where held since 23/7/16.
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Re: Sprottau Camp Manchesters Roll Jan 1917
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2014, 07:38:50 AM »
the reason they are not on the list,is because the red cross were not enquiring about them,CSM cooke who was the senior soldier at sprottau,is answering a enquiry from Geneva about missing men.

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Re: Sprottau Camp Manchesters Roll Jan 1917
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2014, 03:21:20 PM »
34100 Pt Geoffrey Guiffette is 34100 Pte Geoffrey Griffiths. His name is clear on PA5688

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Re: Sprottau Camp Manchesters Roll Jan 1917
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2014, 07:54:45 PM »
Thanks Charlie - I've noted the correction
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Re: Sprottau Camp Manchesters Roll Jan 1917
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2022, 01:40:56 PM »
Hi I have recently joined this group and found this amazing pdf. My great grandfather  Frank Carter 10094 is mentioned in your list in the first post but not sadly inside the pdf sadly as I have no photos him, but lots of photos he could be in !

Anyhow I never knew he was at Sprottau. Many years ago I contacted the Red cross and they said he was transported to Dulmen from Cambrai. He also appears on list for Dulmen as well so I assumed here was there all the time.  o you have any lists that show he was also at Sprottau.

Any help you can offer would be appreciated

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Re: Sprottau Camp Manchesters Roll Jan 1917
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2022, 04:38:02 PM »
Enter the PA and R numbers into the search box, you can then either download or print the 2 lists
https://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/826786/3/2/

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Re: Sprottau Camp Manchesters Roll Jan 1917
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2022, 05:06:04 PM »
Hi

I can see that the R number relates to Sprottau when I scroll to the start, funny how the Red Cross never said that in the letter I got from them but perhaps there was no call to look further at the time

Many thanks for your response