Hi from Plymouth

[Josee]

Hi there

I'm originally from  Northwich but currently live in Plymouth. Just returned from 15 years in Aus.
I've be researching my family history for many years; all Manchester and a bit of Liverpool!!
Just found a cousin who died in WW1 served in the Manchester Reg. 17th Service Battalion B Coy, 5 Platoon
Thomas BARROW born 1883 died 22 March 1918 commemorated at Poziere.
His service number was 8058 and he was a L/Cpl when he died.
There is a mention of him in the Book of Honour.....just wondered if there would be any other info anywhere?
And obviously  if I can help anyone with their research ........
Here's hoping
Cheers Jo

[tonyrod]

HI JO, and welcome to the forum,to start you off see link.  enjoy. tonyrod   

http://www.themanchesters.org/17th%20batt.htm

16th (Service) Battalion (1st City)
Formed in Manchester on 28 August 1914 by the Lord Mayor and City. Initially established at Heaton Park but moved in April 1915 to Belton Park, where placed under command of 90th Brigade in 30th Division. Moved on to Larkhill in September 1915.
6 November 1915 : landed in France.
13 May 1918 : reduced to cadre strength.
18 June 1918 : moved to Boulogne and transferred to 42nd Brigade in 14th (Light) Division. Returned to England and moved to Cowshott. Reconstituted by absorbing 29th Bn.
4 July 1918 : returned to France.

17th (Service) Battalion (2nd City)
Formed in Manchester on 28 August 1914 by the Lord Mayor and City. Record same as 16th Bn.
11 February 1918 : transferred to 21st Brigade in same 30th Division.
15 May 1918 : reduced to cadre strength.
19 June 1918 : attached to 66th (2nd East Lancashire) Division.
30 July 1918 : absorbed into 13th Bn and ceased to exist.

[timberman]

Hi Jo

Welcome to the forum.

He was not present on the main platoon photo.

Link to the list and photo.

http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=4639.0

but was on the supplementary photo taken later.
Can't see the photo on site so I'll get a copy and post on here.

Timberman

[timberman]

Hi

The following information is from his Medal index card.

He went to France on the 08/11/1915
and was entitled to the
1914-15 star
British and Victory medals

His entry in the soldiers that died

Name:    Thomas Barrow
Birth Place:    Bedford, Leigh, Lancs
Residence:    Bradford, Manchester
Death Date:    22 Mar 1918
Death Location:    France & Flanders
Enlistment Location:    Manchester
Rank:    L/Corporal
Regiment:    Manchester Regiment
Battalion:    17th Battalion
Number:    8058
Type of Casualty:    Killed in action
Theatre of War:    Western European Theatre

timbermen

[Josee]

Hello
Thank you tonyrod ....found Tom's name in the 'Casualties of 1918'....thank you
and Timberman, thanks for his Medal Index card....I do hope he turned up for his 'supplementary photo'!!!!
Cheers
Jo

[timberman]

For some reason my Manchester City Pals roll of honour
does not have page 96-98 so the supplementary photos
of the 17th Bn are not there!!!!!!!
Supplementary photos of the 18th and 19th Bn are.

So I'm sorry I cant post the picture, not sure if all the cd's are the same.

Timberman

[kingo]

Hi Jo, and welcome to the forum. Attached is the photo that Timberman refers to. The original book was digitized and for some reason the supplementary photos were omitted. This is a scan from the original book-so not of the best quality. Hope it is of some use.(Click on photo to enlarge)

[mack]

hiya jo.
theres not much i can tell you that you probably already know,this is all i know about thomas

L/cpl 8058 thomas barrow
worked as a warehouse van man in manchester
married teresa hezlet in 1903 in manchester
before the war,he lived at 5 iceland st,mill st manchester
he had at least three children,george,william/thomas jnr and teresa
son of thomas+catherine,formerly of 76 walter st,new cross manchester

thomas and his battalion were in goodmans redoubt at st.quentin on 22nd march 1918,A.company and the HQs were in the redoubt itself and B.C and D companies were in positions around it,A coy managed to get away before they were overrun,but the other three companies were surrounded,they had no ammo left and were forced to surrender,but 2 officers and 73 men were reported missing including thomas,the germans found and buried 232 men in this sector,mostly from the 19th kings liverpool regt and the 17th manchesters,they buried them in their cemetery at roupy road,many of these graves were later destroyed by shellfire,theres no way of knowing if thomas was one of those who were given a decent burial by the germans,out of the 75 killed,sgt/major albert rhodes,L/cpl sid ackerley and thomas were were the only three who were from the original men who enlisted in the battalion back in september 1914
goodmans redoubt was in and around the ruins of chateau de pommery which had been destroyed by the germans

mack

[Josee]

Hi Kingo
Thank you very much for the photo....more detective work needed to establish which one he is!!!


.....and Mack
The census stuff I had, but the battle information is new and the sort of info I was looking for, thank you.
Jo

[mack]

glad we could help jo.

mack