Saying Hello and asking for help

[mack]

hiya roy.
i just noticed that you said that you dont know where your grandmother is buried,shes buried in phillips park cemetery,grave ref A.C.744,also in this grave,is your gt grandmother maria,who was buried on 7-7-1917,lavinia,jane was buried on 6-3-1965,theres also a fanny savage buried with them,she was buried on 27-12-1927.

mack

[george.theshed197]

Further to Mack's info,
Maria SAVAGE, formerly MOORES, married Robert Mar. qtr. 1881, 8D : 191, Manchester. moved into 8, Dimity Street, (Ancoats) Manchester. Robert was an Iron Planer born 1855, Manchester.
Maria MOORES' father was James, born Manchester 1826, a Machine Fitter, his wife Elizabeth, b. 826 was born in Salford. By 1871 they had ten children including Maria and were living at 78, Chapel Street (Off London Road), Manchester.By 1901 Maria was a widow living at 8, Chapel Street, with four children still living at home - Elizabeth (1882); Walter (1884): William(1886) and John (1888).
I am still curious about the Herbert and Annis -  the only marriage I can find of similarity is -
Herbert SAVAGE married Alice M PHILLIPS, Chorlton, 1913, Jun qtr, 8C : 1730.
Cheers,
George  

[Roy Dawson-Savage]

It is hard to explain what this information from Mack and George means to me, I have spent several years looking for the resting place of my Grandparents and to get so much from a simple enquiry about my Dad's war service record seems nothing short of a minor miracle, I thought I had exhausted all the avenues, although I admit to being a mere beginner on the Genealogy front. I am so grateful to you guys and all who have contributed since I joined the Manchester's forum. it's difficult to type with tears in your eyes, but it means that much to me, a mere 'thank you' doesn't say what I feel, perhaps I'll try again when I'm a little more settled.

Kindest regards.

Roy

[george.theshed197]

As the old song goes Roy,

"If I can help somebody as I pass along,
then my living has not been in vain."

You are more than welcome to what little we have done.

George.

[mack]

hiya roy
just to add to what george has posted,your great grandfather robert died in 1890,he was only 35yrs old,in 1891 your gt grandmother maria had moved to 13 shand st,ancoats,elizabeth[her oldest child] and john the youngest,were living with her,but your granddad walter and his brother william had been placed in swinton industrial school,happily by 1901 the family were all back togethor

mack

[Roy Dawson-Savage]

Hi Roy !  Welcome to our forum

It is reasonably easy to apply for his service record from the MOD, although there maybe a wait to receive it.

You will need a copy of his death certificate, which I presume you have, and there is a fee of £30

Click Here to link to the pages from the MOD explaining how to, and to download the necessary forms. 

Don't worry if you can not provide all the information required, just provide as much as you can.

Good luck and if you have any queries, don't hesitate to ask.

Wendi 

Hello again Wendi

I thought I would let you know that I have followed your advice, filled in the forms and sent off my £30.00 cheque to get my Dad's Army service record, as you said it is really quite easy to do (if you know how) which I didn't!

You may be as surprised to learn, as I was, that I cannot expect any results from MOD re my enquiry for a period of 9 to 12 months!
Those guys must be pretty busy!!

Thanks again for your help

Kindest regards.

Roy

[Wendi]

Hi Roy I'm glad you have applied, it makes the waiting time shorter 

The MOD respond to requests from ex-service personnel first, which I guess is only fair, but I'm sure with all the information you were able to provide the time will speed past!

We are all glad you joined the forum and that we have been able to assist.

Wendi 

[Migky.]

Hi & welcome Roy, now here is my two penneth for what it is worth.
First the correction on the Phillips park location of the grave. It is in the Consecrated or as i say the church of England section.
Grave number A. 744.
Maria died age 63 a widow residing at 14 Danson street Newton.
Fanny died age 18 months residing at 2 ilk street Clayton.
Lavina Jane died age 83 a widow residing at 20 moorcroft drive Burnage.

Here are a couple of wedding certificates for you.

Robert & Maria marriage certificate Click here for Robert's marriage certificate

Walters & Lavina marriage certificate  Click here for Walter's marriage certificate

[Migky.]

Elizabeth Savage married an Arthur Whatmough in 1911

Click here for Elizabeth's wedding certificate

Migky

[tisgrannie]

Wow what a terrific find for you. Took me years to find out that kind of info.
Very happy for you. Such a great site, wonderful people helping out on here.
Regarding your fathers passing, maybe it was as a result of an accident.
What does it say on his death Cert. The reason I mention it, is if it was something like that, there could be something in the local paper around that time.
The way it was worded intruiged me. (sp) Its worth checking.
I noticed also that an Austin Lowry was the person who authorised the wedding in Swinton. Could be a rellie of L.S. Lowry 
kind regards
tisgrannie

[themonsstar]

Hi Roy

As you are doing your research, make sure you get your service records as thay are free to you being an ex serviceman.

regards

Roy

[Roy Dawson-Savage]

Hi & welcome Roy, now here is my two penneth for what it is worth.
First the correction on the Phillips park location of the grave. It is in the Consecrated or as i say the church of England section.
Grave number A. 744.
Maria died age 63 a widow residing at 14 Danson street Newton.
Fanny died age 18 months residing at 2 ilk street Clayton.
Lavina Jane died age 83 a widow residing at 20 moorcroft drive Burnage.

Here are a couple of wedding certificates for you.

Robert & Maria marriage certificate Click here for Robert's marriage certificate

Walters & Lavina marriage certificate  Click here for Walter's marriage certificate

Thanks for that Migky, I am amazed that you can come up with such old wedding certificates, they will fit very nicely into my Family tree programme.
Also thanks for the amendment to the grave details, I will follow that up. I did follow up Mack's info, but the guy at the Cemetery said he didn't know what the A meant and then changed the C to a G so that we finished up at G744 which was of course not my family, however he then took me to G744 in the Non Conformist section and pointed out a piece of grass and said 'She must be about here'! altogether not a good experience and the info was there from Mac in the first place, apart from the denomination, but I guessed C of E anyway.
I am truly grateful for your help, I owe so many of you guys a drink and I will pay up one of these days I promise.

Kind regards.

Roy

[Roy Dawson-Savage]

Wow what a terrific find for you. Took me years to find out that kind of info.
Very happy for you. Such a great site, wonderful people helping out on here.
Regarding your fathers passing, maybe it was as a result of an accident.
What does it say on his death Cert. The reason I mention it, is if it was something like that, there could be something in the local paper around that time.
The way it was worded intruiged me. (sp) Its worth checking.
I noticed also that an Austin Lowry was the person who authorised the wedding in Swinton. Could be a rellie of L.S. Lowry 
kind regards
tisgrannie

Hi Tisgrannie,

Yes the wording on the certificate intrigued me also, but there was no doubt about cause of death, It was heart attack (Myocardiac something or other)
Which wedding in Swinton are you referring to, I don't see it on any of the wedding certs that Migky sent to me?
You are right about the people on this site, I have never had so much help before in my search for my relatives, I just wish I knew how they do it!
Austin Lowry might be a great great great uncle of mine! so I might be a relative of L.S. but I doubt it, if it has musical notes I am happy, but if it requires a paint brush or pencil forget it!!

Kind regards.

Roy

[Wendi]

Roy.....

http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=1886.0

Wendi 

[Roy Dawson-Savage]

Hi Roy

As you are doing your research, make sure you get your service records as thay are free to you being an ex serviceman.

regards

Roy

Hi Monsstar
I'm only researching my Dad's war record, just as a way of getting a little closer to him (well that's how it feels to me) I only did National Service in Malaya for two years, active service but not very 'Active'.
Although I have contacted my old Drum Major (Corps of Drums) now in his eighties and one other guy from our group who now lives in NZ.
I fell in love with Malaya and dreamt about it for years afterwards.
Kind regards.
Roy