Fred Garside

[V Pilgrim]

Hello, my name is Valerie and I am trying to find details of my maternal grandfather Fred Garside.
Only info I have is on my mother's birth certificate which states he was a private in the 3rd Manchester Regiment. The time period is 1914 - 1918 war. His wedding certificate in 1914 states he was 33 years old
His wife's name was Catherine Garside (nee Noble). In 1917 his wife lived at 4 Clifton St. Normanton and
their daughter (my mother) was Ann Elizabeth Kathleen Garside.
Any information, or how to find it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[harribobs]

Hi Valerie

and welcome to the forum

I will move this thread over to the Great War section and we shall see if we can help you

The 3rd battalion in the great war served as a holding/training battalion, so if he went overseas it would have been with another battalion

cheers

chris

[timberman]

Hi Valerie

Welcome to the forum.

Did he have a middle name and do you have an address for him.
As there are several Fred Garside on Ancestry that served in the Manchester Regiment.

Timberman

[mack]

hia valerie.
your grandfather was private 8865 fred garside
enlisted 6-7-1903 at the depot,ashton under lyne
aged 18yrs.10mths
posted to 2nd manchesters 1-8-03
posted to 1st battalion 29-3-05,served in india for one year
posted back to 2nd battalion on 4-6-06
occupation on enlistment,labourer
1913 lived at 2 new st,wakefield
brother harry 33 anchor place,hunslett,later living at 11 royal place,hunslett[1915]
married miss catherine noble on 6-8-14 at wakefield,witnesses john,henry+emma lee
children phillis,rose,born 18-9-13
resided 11 elwich st,normanton
sent to 1st battalion in france on 23-11-14
reported missing at givenchy on 21-12-14,later found and taken to 2nd gen hospital at havre with a busted knee,he was sent to england on the hospital ship asturias on 28-12-14 and admitted to the 3rd military gen hospital,sheffield on 31st
returned to france on 21-4-15
hit in the left leg by shrapnel near ypres on 14-5-15,passed through the 14th field ambulance and the 13th stationary hospital and admitted to endell st military hospital,london on 25-5-15
returned to france on 13-7-16 and transferred to the 10th lancashire fusiliers on 20th as private 39540
shot in the right thigh on 25th aug 1918,passed through the 51st field ambulance+38th casualty clearing station on 26th and admitted to the 3rd australian gen hospital at abbeville on 27th,the following day he was shipped to england on the hospital ship st.denis and admitted to aberdare auxillery hospital on the 29th,discharged to ten days convalescent leave on 11-10-18,leave spent at his brother harrys home at 11 royal place,hunslett.

mack

[V Pilgrim]

Hi Mack

Wow!
Thank you very much the the very quick reply and extremely useful information.
After 2 years of trying all this info is fantastic.
May I just ask you another question please?
Is there any record of him having another child called Anne Elizabeth Kathleen
who was born on 25th December 1916 and live at 4 Clifton St. Normanton.
Could you please enlighten me as to where all this info came from?
Thank you once again
Blessings
Valerie

[mack]

hiya valerie
your grandfathers service records are on ancestry,theres a lot more info in them,some of which i didnt want to post on here

mack

[grimmy]

Hi Valerie,

The birth of Anne Elizabeth Kathleen Garside was registered at Wakefield in the first quarter (March) of 1917. Her mother's maiden name was Noble.

Other Garside/Noble children were:

Francis (registered Bradford June 1916) and
Ruth (registered Bradford June 1921).

[V Pilgrim]

Thank you very much for all your efforts, I will now try ancestry.
Thanks
Valerie

[V Pilgrim]

Hi mack
I have managed to get all fred garside's very colourful war record off.  His marriage cert states he was older by 4 years few untruths told!  I have been looking in the wrong years teach me to spread my searches wider!  I was wondering if you could tell me what the date is on page 93637, it is a memo.  I read it as 24 01 16 but my mother was born on 25 12 16.  Also pages 93623 and 93624.  It is a letter I think to his wife - not sure after reading all this if he is my grandad although he is registered as being my mother's dad.
Also when he enlisted as a soldier would he have had a photo taken?  If so is there any chance of me getting a copy of it and where do I apply for it.  I have no photos of him or his wilfe my mother was brought up by aunts.

Thank you once again for all your help.

Blessings Valerie 

[mack]

hiya valerie.
the date on the memo is 24-1-16
i cant read most of whats on pages 93623 and 93624,but he seems to say that he will send her money when he gets to france and asks her to take care of herself and the child.
i cant help with a photo,there may have been one published in his local paper.

mack