The Manchesters

[donny]

Hi to ALL,
Can someone please tell me where the local history museum is in Ashton ?
Is this the place to start researching a soldier of the Manchesters ? (The Museum)

Can anyone give me any pointers on where to start searching for the following soldier:

Albert (Edward) Donohue , not a lot is it ?

I know quite a bit about this soldier from research on other forums but unfortunately his records are not amongst the 'burnt papers' .
I have 3 MICs for him and I have photos of him in uniform spaning 15-20 years, But that would all be after his service in the Manchesters , so is not relevant at this instance . I know he has the DCM, the WW1 trio and a TEM.
The reason I am here is, I was informed that his number in the MGC is one of a batch of numbers used by the MGC for soldiers who transfered from the Manchesters. His number in the MGC was 12079 although this will have no bearing on the Manchesters number.

Now before you all start shouting about him not being in the gazette or TNA or any other list, I KNOW, i have researched them all, but I have photographs of him spaning 12 years wearing a DCM on Parade. Forget about the DCM for now, unless you can show me he was awarded it in the Regt.
But that is not why I am here, I am here to see if I would be able to identify a soldier of the Manchesters from his name and dob 06 July 1897.

Any help would be most appreciated

Donny
ex 1 Kings

Old soldiers never die
they only fade away

[Wendi]

Hi Donny

Mack and Robert's post might help re. your questions regarding local research in this topic. http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=5163.0

So as not to repeat, I would encourage anyone interested in posting a reply to Donny, to read this first.

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=154038&st=0&p=1484132&hl=donohue&fromsearch=1&#entry1484132

Wendi 

[donny]

Wendi,

thanks for the info' on the museum and the archives.
Also thanks for the link , it will save me a lot of explaining .

Regards
Donny
ex 1 Kings

Old soldiers never die
they only fade away

[harribobs]

Hi to ALL,
Can someone please tell me where the local history museum is in Ashton ?
Is this the place to start researching a soldier of the Manchesters ? (The Museum)


Donny
ex 1 Kings

Old soldiers never die
they only fade away

the Museum of the Manchester Regiment is heremuseum

The Archives of the Manchester Regiment are here archives as you will see they are held at the local history section at the library at Old Street

the best place to start researching is probably here here



chris

[timberman]

Donny

It would of been better to have said something instead of just 
(that is why I removed your post)
not sure why but maybe the following may help other people as well.
It relates to the post above posted by Chris.

If you click on museum it will take you to the museum web site.
If you click on archives it will take you to the archives web site.

If you click on here it will take you to the forum, after you have signed in
you can then use the search facility.

Have you manage to find out anything further in the last 6 year to add to the topic?


Timberman

[donny]

Sorry for previous post, I was just showing my frustration at the brick wall I have encounted. No I have not been able to find anymore information regarding his service before the MGC. General concences is that he joined under an assumed name, which is nigh on impossible to trace. The family have a history of name changes. I have shown a picture of a soldier in the 1/19 Manchesters to a surviving relative and she is sure it is him but without a name on the picture I am just clutching at straws.
Once again, sorry for bumping the post.
Donny

[timberman]

Hi Donny

No problem, we all hit brick walls and as you say it is very frustrating.
I've had a good look around this morning with no joy.
Now you have mentioned the 19th Bn I'll have a look at the list of
DCM's awarded to that Bn.

Timberman

[charlie]

A quick search of the online MiCs reveals that he was also M-410498 Pte ASC and 728916 Bmdr RFA.
Charlie

[timberman]

Had a look at the DCM's, there are several that were awarded in 1914/15
These were mostly to the 1st Bn with others to the other Bn's.
Nothing jumps out as them using an alias.

Sadly as you said if he did use an alias and it was not recorded
as such it would be impossible to match him up with the DCM award.
It is possible he joined before the war underage and gave a alias
then was wounded giving his real name and then sent where he
was needed, this would account for the DCM being written on his MIC
and the note on it about the full card.

I'm sure this has all been said before, but he could of been in any
Regiment, I know they said on the GWF that the numbers tied in with
transfers from the Manchester's.

Never say never info has a habit of turning up when you least expect
it

Timberman

[timberman]

Just a thought, what was his mother's and Grandma's
maiden names? If it's not been tried before.

Timberman

[donny]

Thanks for the input. I have tried all the variations of the family names and aliases! Believe me , there are lots of them. I, like you, suspect he joined underage using an alias. I have a photo of him wearing 3 wound stripes. But without a name it's a hard slog. Thanks again.

[sphinx]

Please post any photos of him in uniform.
There may be clues in them we can use.

regards

[donny]

Sphinx
Unfortunately all the photos I have of Albert are in the RGA from 1920-33.
Donny

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/uploads/monthly_10_2010/post-23832-013511700%201287012354.jpg

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=154038&st=0&p=1484132&hl=donohue&fromsearch=1&#entry1484132

[sphinx]

Donny,

Thanks for that, the discussion does indeed throw up the question as to why he is wearing the DCM and the 1914/15 Star.

There are only 2 possibilities:-

1.  Prior service in another name (Normally cross-referenced on his MIC)
2.  No entitlement.

regards

[charlie]

What information is contained in the medal rolls ?

Charlie