hello

[slob]

Hi,
I don't know how far you have gone looking for birth certificate, but there are some possibles with odd spellings.
If you James is the one that is the son of Stephen and Mary:

WHEELAN Mary       1871 Standish
WHEALAN James      1876 Standish 
WHEELAN Catherine  1877 Standish
WHELAN  Stephen    1879 Standish

No sign of Bridget, and these are the only Whelan variants registered in Standish in the 1870s.

Cheers,
    Dave

[Wendi]

on my dads birth cert. <he was 4 at the time> there is a stamp -FEB 1917 ARMY PAY OFFICE PRESTON why would that be.?

Hi vera !

Just a guess, it looks like your father's birth certificate was requested by the pay office, perhaps to fund an allowance out of your grandfathers pay for your grandmother, and the amount of that allowance would be greater for a wife with child ?  Certainly on enlistment papers I have seen the children listed and then "proved by cert" written next to it

Just an idea

Wendi 

[slob]

There is a pension record for a James Whelan, Pte 9386  Lancs Fusiliers.
There is no date of birth or home address given, but he was a skilled miner, and was transferred to the reserve in 1917 and went pits in Wigan.
Served in the Med and in France.

If this looks like the right chap, I can provide the images.

Dave

[Wendi]

Dave! do the numbers match ?

Wendi 

[slob]

Which numbers? - I don't think we've been given any for James.
There are 2 MICs that fit name and regiment, 9361 and 9386.

Dave

[wiganer]

hidave ,
thanks so much for that it does seem likely tobe him as he was a miner.
He took my dad down the pit with him at 14 yrs old, in 1926. I would be very grateful for any further info you have as the family is all but gone now.
vera

[slob]

Hi Wiganer,
You haven't replied to my PM, if you are still interested in the pension records send me a private message with your email address.

Dave

[wiganer]

hi wendi,
I have a feeling yuo must be right about the birth cert.-my dads parents were never married but the kids had their fathers name .I expect that mother would have had to proove paternal responsibility for the kids.
vera

[wiganer]

hi,have you recieved the email Isent yesterday of what I beleve to be a group of the 5th manchesters.
John Howarth 43871 is back row ,standing,last left as you are looking at it.
I'm having a lot of problems downloading medal cards. wat to get John Howarths and James Whelans ,I\went through the process and paid, then a message came up saying interrupted.When Itry again  get<you have already purchased this but was innterrupted>.I have emailed the nat. archives and am waiting their reply but it's very frustrating.
I tried to get James Whelans pension record fromancestory but they no longer take my type of debit card.
It's a bgood job we don't have a cat.
vera

[tisgrannie]

Hi Vera I have just emailed you the pension records of James Whelan 9386. Hope they are the right ones. If you click on my name at the side and send me your address. I have printed off the 4 sheets. I will pop them in the post asap. Save you doing it if you like, they are no good to me, you may as well have them.
kind regards
tisgrannie

[Wendi]

It's a bgood job we don't have a cat.
vera

I had an Aunt called Vera..........she was a lovely lady 

[slob]

Am I confused? I sent you the pension records a few days ago, and you said you had them OK.

Dave

[tisgrannie]

Oh well I'm confused now too. I sent them as well.
Never mind the more the merrier.
tisgrannie

[wiganer]

hi dave and tisgrannie,
no wonder your confused cos i've anaged to confuse myself.
i don'tknow what those records were as I didn't recognse them as pension ecords ,never having seen any before.
You most both think me a right idiot and sorry if iv'e caused you any trouble.
I am a novice at all this.
thankS Vera

[slob]

No problem - as long as we get there in the end.

Cheers,
   Dave