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saintconor

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Died in service between the wars
« on: July 18, 2010, 01:18:33 AM »
Hi,

Some time ago I posted a thread regarding those killed in Palestine during the pre WW2 campaign. I'm now extending my research to include all those who died between 1st September 1921 & 2nd September 1939. These dates are not covered by the CWGC leaving these brave soldiers without a proper memorial. Any assistance would be very much appreciated.

Regards

Conor

Offline mack

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Re: Died in service between the wars
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2010, 07:38:15 AM »
hiya conor.
heres one for you

pte 18850 john,william doherty
enl 18-11-14
aged 19
21st manchesters
occupation,tram guard
65 nelson st,miles platting
mother elizabeth
born january 1895
shot in the jaw+knee on 16-7-16,passed through the 23rd field ambulance+11th gen hospital and put aboard the hospital ship ABERDONIAN on 19-7-16
posted to the 22nd manchesters in france on 23-1-17
shot in the back on 28-3-17,sent to the 26th gen hospital,etaples on 3-4-17 then shipped home on the hospital ship GRANTULLY CASTLE on 15-4-17,admitted to 2nd northern gen hospital on 17-4-17,then to arncliffe military hospital on 20-4-17
discharged as no longer physically fit on 8-11-17
died march 1930 aged 34
buried in phillips park cemetery
grave ref. G.587

mack ;D

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Re: Died in service between the wars
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2010, 08:06:11 AM »
pte 2272 frederick,william beddows
1/8th manchesters
died may 1920
aged 23
buried phillips park cemetery
grave ref. NC.E.800

there is no record of this man in any military records and he doesnt show up in the burial records for phillips park cemetery,but hes buried their

mack ;D

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Re: Died in service between the wars
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2010, 10:54:08 AM »
i would post  any names you have  to ,

 GNolanatthenma.org.uk <GNolanatthenma.org.uk>
Subject: Armed Forces Memorial.
Replace at with @

it took me over a year to get my soldier listed on the roll of honour,even though he his buried in a cwgc  grave in Germany and was serving at the time of his death in 1957.
i myself would post your info to the above address  as soon as you have info on a soldier.
  every one of them deserve to be remembered.

only complaint the roll of honour scroll, it looks like a 5 year old designed it,
Albert pollard died of natural causes so only went on the roll of honour, one of my family was killed and the wording his different on his scroll,
 His name has been included on the Armed Forces
Memorial in Staffordshire and will be included on the
Rolls of Honour that, when complete, will be kept on
public display in the Chapel of the Royal Hospital
Chelsea in London

« Last Edit: July 18, 2010, 11:38:39 AM by timberman »

saintconor

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Re: Died in service between the wars
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2010, 11:28:59 AM »
Hi,

Mack, Thank you for your replies. The thing is i'm putting together a list of those who died in service ( still in the regiment). Doherty had been discharged so was a civilian when he died. Beddows died during the qualifying period for the CWGC ( up to 31st August 1921). If he is not commerated then you should contact www.infromthecold.org who are trying to get all non comms commerated.

Tony, The soldiers I'm collecting data on are those who died outside the qualifying periods for the CWGC and Armed Forces Memorial. These dates being:

04/08/1914 to 31/08/1921 for CWGC WW1
03/09/1939 to 31/12/1947 for CWGC WW2
01/01/1948 to Present day for the Armed Forces Memorial

This leaves a gap between 01/09/1921 and 02/09/1939. These men/women are not commerated on any of the sites. Was their sacrifice any less? Long term I hope to maybe contact the relevant people with a view to a memorial. I estimate that the figures will be in the thousands. To give you an idea the men listed below all lost their lives in Palestine prior to WW2.

19/01/1939      PTE   5498515   T E   ANDREWS   HAMPSHIRE REGIMENT
08/10/1936      PTE   3853202   J   ARMSTRONG   THE LOYAL REGIMENT
04/03/1938      PTE      S E   ASH      BORDER REGIMENT
14/10/1938      L/CPL   4532336   R   ASHWELL      LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
06/08/1938      PTE   2754861   E   BALFOUR      BLACK WATCH
10/04/1939      PTE   5948941   G H   BARLOW      BEDFORDSHIRE & HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
13/05/1939      PTE   3712249   W   BARLOW      KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
20/07/1938      CSM   3044414   G W    BEAUCHAMP   ROYAL SCOTS
15/12/1936      PTE   5045430   P   BENNION      NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
12/10/1929      PTE   4909699   P   BRANDHAM   SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
08/03/1939      TPR   410873   A D   BREGAZZI   1ST THE ROYAL DRAGOONS
22/10/1937      PTE   2754917   C   BRODIE      BLACK WATCH
04/02/1939      PTE   2692383   A   BRUCE      LEICESTSHIRE REGIEMNT
02/06/1939      PTE   5181782   S E   BURR      THE BUFFS (ROYAL EAST KENT REGIMENT)
11/10/1936      PTE   3187474   E   BYWORTH   KOSB
10/11/1938      PTE   3055650   J S   CAIRNS      ROYAL SCOTS
01/08/1938      PTE   2750302   R A O   CANT      BLACK WATCH
22/07/1938      PTE   825154   S T   CHAPMAN   QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
26/10/1929      PTE   7143869   W   CLARKE      THE KINGS REGIMENT (LIVERPOOL)
10/06/1937      PTE   5498124   J   COCKER      HAMPSHIRE REGIMENT
24/09/1938      L/CPL   3524713   J J   COLGAN      KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
19/05/1939      PTE   5048989   B   CONNORS   LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
04/11/1929      PTE   4029284   J   COOKSON   SOUTH WALES BORDERERS
02/06/1939      L/CPL   6285574   R   COOPER      THE BUFFS (ROYAL EAST KENT REGIMENT)
23/11/1931      CPL   5102769   A   CORKETT      ROYAL WARWICKSHIRE REGIMENT
01/10/1938      L/CPL   3382867   A   CRAIG      KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
23/12/1938      PTE   4538318   J   CRAVEN      WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT
26/12/1937      PTE   5047788   J F   CREASEY      NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
20/03/1932      CSM   3122370   A   CROPP      ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
18/08/1938      RSM   3513233   J   CURRIE      MANCHESTER REGIMENT
04/11/1936      L/CPL      R F   CURTIS      THE BUFFS (EAST KENT REGIMENT)
08/10/1938      PTE   6343662   G W   DAVIDSON   QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
19/12/1938      PTE   4267767   J G   DAVIDSON   WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
14/06/1939      L/CPL   6516548   J   DAVIES      RIFLE BRIGADE
06/11/1938      PTE   4858580   H E   DERBYSHIRE   LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
12/11/1938      PTE   3853868   J   DIGAN      KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
28/10/1938      PTE   3598601   J L   DORAN      BORDER REGIMENT
28/01/1939      L/CPL   4537364   E   DRANSFIELD   WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT
15/10/1938      PTE   4858208   F G   DUNKLEY      LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
28/01/1924      CQMS   4602030   T   DUNN      DUKE OF WELLINGTONS (WEST RIDING REG)
11/10/1938      PTE   5250987   A   DWYER      WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
02/03/1930      PTE   5881477   G S   EAST      NORTHAMPTONSHIRE REGIMENT
28/09/1936      SJT   4118979   R   EATON      CHESHIRE REGIMENT
10/08/1936      PTE   4123347   N   EDWARDS   CHESHIRE REGIMENT
20/05/1939      L/CPL   4975543   T   EDWARDS   SHERWOOD FORESTERS
29/07/1939      PTE   3959625   J   EVANS      WELCH REGIMENT
10/09/1931      PTE   3708693   C   FARRINGTON   KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
10/08/1936      LIEUT      R M   FESTING      SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
27/12/1936      PTE      E   FINCH      ESSEX REGIMENT
28/08/1936      PTE   4741925   L   FOX      YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT
29/10/1938      CQMS   6190036   W   FOX      QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
10/03/1938      PTE   3525446   M   FURY      MANCHESTER REGIMENT
09/01/1939      PTE      G   GAULD      ROYAL SCOTS
09/09/1938      PTE   3055383   C   GAVAN      ROYAL SCOTS
10/02/1934      L/CPL   2817570   S   GOATLEY      SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
16/03/1937      LIEUT      F C F   GOODHART   ROYAL SUSSEX REGIMENT
10/04/1939      L/CPL   5948573   R S   GOULD      BEDFORDSHIRE AND HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
18/01/1932      PTE   6194353   C   GRAINGER   MIDDLESEX REGIMENT
12/06/1939      PTE   2754942   A C   GRANT      BLACK WATCH
13/11/1938      CPL   3710756   C E    GREEN      KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
16/08/1938      2/LIEUT      R F   GRIFFITHS   MANCHESTER REGIMENT
02/11/1929      PTE   3906496   H   GUNTER      SOUTH WALES BORDERERS
02/10/1938      PTE   5770527   B   HARE      WORCESTSHIRE REGIMENT
18/08/1938      PTE   3525503   W   HARPER      MANCHESTER REGIMENT
09/01/1938      PTE   6343255   H C   HARRINGTON   QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
02/11/1929      PTE   3907106   W   HARRIS      SOUTH WALES BORDERERS
20/10/1938      PTE   4915174   E J   HARROP      SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
02/12/1938      SJT   2651218   G   HARWOOD   COLDSTREAM GUARDS
21/04/1938      PTE   6343678   C G   HAYES      QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
13/08/1939      L/CPL   5249722   L   HAYES      WORCESTSHIRE REGIMENT
19/08/1938      L/CPL   3527487   C   HEELAN      MANCHESTER REGIMENT
29/09/1936      PTE   4745282   F   HEMPSHELL   YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT
10/10/1931      L/SJT   3707017   M   HENSEY      KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
19/05/1939      L/CPL   405547   F   HOBDEN      ROYAL SCOTS GREYS
22/07/1936      PTE   4796390   R A   HOLMES      LINCOLNSHIRE REGIMENT
25/06/1936      L/CPL   2562863   A   HOULTRAM   CHESHIRE REGIMENT
06/06/1938      PTE   2754649   D   HOOD      BLACK WATCH
27/04/1937      PTE   6009798   W   HOWARD      ESSEX REGIMENT
13/08/1936      L/CPL   5948406   A E   HOWES      BEDFORDSHIRE AND HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
04/11/1938      PTE   6343333   T J   HUNT      QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
25/06/1936      L/CPL   2818508   J   HUNTER      SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
05/11/1937      PTE   2754453   T   HUTCHISON   BLACK WATCH
10/04/1939      PTE   5948579   C G F   JACKSON      BEDFORDSHIRE AND HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
06/11/1929      PTE   3906563   F   JAMES      SOUTH WALES BORDERERS
02/06/1939      PTE   2981192   J   JOHNSTONE   A&S HIGHLANDERS
21/12/1938      PTE   6343350   A   JONES      QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
12/11/1938      CPT      C T   KENWARD   THE BUFFS (ROYAL EAST KENT REGIMENT)
01/10/1936      PTE   4123378   J   KINCAID      CHESHIRE REGIMENT
28/02/1939      FUS   4268950   A L   LAIRD      NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS
19/11/1938      L/SJT   2656791   D   LANGTON      COLDSTREAM GUARDS
26/03/1939      PTE   4389587   N   LEONARD      GREEN HOWARDS
04/02/1939      PTE   4857710   L   LOCK      LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
13/09/1936      PTE   2928268   J   MACDONALD   CAMERON   HIGHLANDERS
10/08/1936      PTE   4746045   R A   MACKIE      YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT
22/06/1936      PTE   5948437   D   MANN      BEDFORDSHIRE AND HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
19/10/1929      PTE   3906651   G   MANNERS      SOUTH WALES BORDERERS
08/02/1938      L/SJT   3052094   R G   MANSON      ROYAL SCOTS
09/12/1938      L/CPL   4855555   A   MARSHALL   LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
31/08/1936      PTE   3908661   T   MAURICE      SOUTH WALES BORDERERS
07/07/1936      PTE   2817567   W   MAVERS      SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
01/06/1939      PTE   6087726   J   MAY      QUEENS REGIMENT
20/11/1936      FUS   4268443   P   MCARDLE      NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS
28/11/1938      L/CPL   2752555   J   MCCALLUM   ROYAL SCOTS
07/01/1939      FUS   6977861   S R   MCCLAY      ROYAL IRISH FUSILIERS
14/12/1938      L/CPL   2717984   J   MCCONNELL   GREEN HOWARDS
20/01/1939      PTE   6285595   W   MCKAY      THE BUFFS (ROYAL EAST KENT REGIMENT)
27/11/1938      L/SJT   6977836   E   MCKEER      ROYAL IRISH FUSILIERS
07/05/1936      PTE   2928236   C   MCLEOD      CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
15/05/1922      TPR   390638   A D   MCNICOL      ROYAL SCOTS GREYS
29/07/1938      SJT   2748989   J   MCPHAIL      BLACK WATCH
20/09/1937      PTE   6011468   N P   MEREDITH   ESSEX REGIMENT
22/09/1936      L/CPL   4743578   J   MERRY      YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT
05/11/1937      PTE   2754593   A   MILTON      BLACK WATCH
29/11/1938      FUS   6978170   W   MITCHELL   ROYAL IRISH FUSILIERS
27/12/1938      FUS   4271114   J   MORRICE      NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS
17/03/1934      PTE   2817705   T   MORROW      SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
26/10/1938      SJT   3704203   A   MOSELY      KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
26/12/1937      2/LIEUT      K   MOUNTAIN   BORDER REGIMENT
14/05/1938      PTE   6343715   H   MOYES      QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
13/03/1939      PTE   4798544   H   MOYNE      LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
04/01/1937      PTE   5498250   A C    NEAL      HAMPSHIRE REGIMENT
14/03/1939      PTE   3055021   J   NOLAN      ROYAL SCOTS
23/08/1938      CPT      J R   OAKLEY      ROYAL SCOTS
05/09/1936      DMR   4121995   T   OATES      CHESHIRE REGIMENT
17/07/1938      PTE   3054837   W   PARKINS      ROYAL SCOTS
15/08/1938      PTE   6009725   G   PARNHAM      ESSEX REGIMENT
21/10/1938      GDSM   3854481   E J   PATFIELD      COLDSTREAM GUARDS
08/02/1938      PTE   3525590   J T   PENNY      MANCHESTER REGIMENT
21/01/1932      D/MJR   6189427   N   PHILLIPSON   MIDDLESEX REGIMENT
14/10/1938      PTE   4858175   H   PLATT      LEICESTSHIRE REGIMENT
22/07/1939      PTE   5251351   H   POTTER      WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
04/09/1936      DMR   3764764   C   QUIRKE      CHESHIRE REGIMENT
29/11/1938      CPL   6392648   A F   RACE      ROYAL IRISH FUSILIERS
23/05/1939      MJR      W G   READ-BEETON   QUEENS REGIMENT
09/11/1938      L/CPL   3054846   G B   REDPATH      ROYAL SCOTS
12/08/1936      PTE   5435293   P A   REGAN      YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT
02/06/1939      PTE   6285179   R T W   RICHEY      THE BUFFS (ROYAL EAST KENT REGIMENT)
18/08/1939      LIEUT      C C R   RIVETT-CARNAC   SHERWOOD FORESTERS
08/07/1939      TPR   3242974   D   ROBERTSON   ROYAL SCOTS GREYS
12/11/1938      CPL      J   RODGER      ROYAL SCOTS
29/06/1938      BDSM   3303334   J   ROLLAND      HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
27/10/1936      CPL   7881590   C   ROSE      ROYAL TANK CORPS
22/12/1938      PTE   6342445   C   RUMENS      QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
01/06/1939      PTE   2754856   D   RUSSELL      BLACK WATCH
17/11/1938      PTE   5333597   P M   RYAN      WORCESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
05/03/1930      PTE   5879849   G   SANGER      NORTHAMPTONSHIRE REGIMENT
27/08/1939      PTE   4858827   C   SANKEY      LEICESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
13/02/1937      PTE   5492786   E   SAWYER      HAMPSHIRE REGIMENT
31/05/1939      PTE   2754987   W   SCOTT      BLACK WATCH
23/07/1939      PTE   3311849   T   SHARP      HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
09/09/1936      L/CPL   4744995   A   SHARPE      YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT
28/10/1937      PTE   5486672   J L   SMART      HAMPSHIRE REGIMENT
21/06/1936      L/SJT   2814807   H R   SILLS      SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
16/03/1939      PTE   4858343   C   SMEETON   LEICESTERSHIRE REGIMENT
22/10/1936      PTE   4536906   A J   SMITH      WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT
18/10/1938      FUS   4270117   F   SMITH      NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS
25/09/1932      L/CPL   6196038   R   SMITH      MIDDLESEX REGIMENT
22/04/1935      PTE   5333725   V W   SMITH      ROYAL BERKSHIRE REGIMENT
08/04/1939      L/CPL   6087216   G W   SPRANKLING   QUEENS REGIMENT
24/09/1936      FUS   3128858   D   STEWART   ROYAL SCOTS FUSILIERS
20/08/1936      CSM   2810979   W M    STEWART   SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS
28/09/1936      CPTN      R   STEWART-NISBET   CAMERON HIGHLANDERS
22/09/1936      PTE   5947909   R G   STRANKS      BEDFORDSHIRE AND HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
11/09/1936      SJT   3850182   J   SWEENEY   THE LOYAL REGIMENT
27/07/1938      PTE      F   TAYLOR      ESSEX REGIMENT
26/02/1939      FUS   4270905   H   THIRKLE      NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS
12/11/1934      PTE   2869595   K   THOM      GORDON HIGHLANDERS
18/11/1938      PTE   6344154   L   TOWNER      QUEENS OWN (ROYAL WEST KENT REGIMENT)
08/06/1939      BDSM   4536097   K R   TOWNROE   WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT
25/05/1939      2/LIEUT      R B   VEILLY-SAVILL   KINGS OWN ROYAL REGIMENT
10/10/1936      L/CPL   5948745   B W   WALKER      BEDFORDSHIRE AND HERTFORDSHIRE REGIMENT
28/01/1924      CSM   4603336   P E   WALKER      DUKE OF WELLINGTONS (WEST RIDING REGIMENT)
23/07/1939      PTE   3311683   R   WARREN      HIGHLAND LIGHT INFANTRY
17/03/1939      PTE   4389277   C   WATSON      GREEN HOWARDS
25/05/1931      PTE   5105323   W J   WEIR      ROYAL WARWICKSHIRE REGIMENT
20/10/1938      2/LIEUT      W R   WELLER      WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT
10/04/1939      PTE   5948954   H C   WHATLING   BEDFORDSHIRE AND HERTFORDSHIRE REG
03/09/1936      CPL   5044848   J   WILKES      LINCOLNSHIRE REGIMENT
27/03/1939      PTE   4285241   H   WILLIAMS   GREEN HOWARDS
06/03/1938      CPL   3053480   H   WILSON      ROYAL SCOTS
08/01/1939      L/CPL   3187640   J   WILSON      ROYAL IRISH FUSILIERS
02/06/1939      PTE   6285566   J   WILSON      THE BUFFS (ROYAL EAST KENT REGIMENT)
09/11/1938      PTE   2926622   M   WINTER      ROYAL SCOTS
31/01/1939      PTE   6087216   D   WINTER-ELSEY   QUEENS REGIMENT
12/08/1936      L/CPL   4745612   H   WOOD      YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENT
13/07/1937      PTE   5569379   M   WOODS      WILTSHIRE REGIMENT
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Offline tonyrod

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Re: Died in service between the wars
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2010, 07:45:41 AM »
cheers saintconor , its unbelievable the period up to ww2 his not included . yet they have room for over 20,000 names to be added on the Armed Forces Memorial . and it would not be hard to add a concrete wall section in if needed.

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Re: Died in service between the wars
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2010, 11:17:33 AM »
Grave at All Saints Church, Maymyo, Burma - "In loving memory of No. 7075205 Pte Joseph Jameson 2nd Bn. The Manchester Regt. aged 39 years. Died 2nd November 1928."

Grave at Quetta - "In memory of No. 3518977 Acting Sergeant Albert Davies. 2nd Battalion The Manchester Regiment who died at Quetta 6 May 1930."

Grave at Rangoon, Burma - "No. 7143335 Private Christopher Clavery. 2nd Battalion The Manchester Regiment who died at Rangoon 17th February 1927."

Grave at Rangoon, Burma - "No. 3514167 Private Edward Bartlette. 2nd Battalion The Manchester Regiment who died at Rangoon 23rd April 1926."

Grave at Maymyo, Burma - "In memory of No. 3516678 Private John William Bradley 2nd Bn. The Manchester Regiment who died at Maymyo 29th September 1929."