John and William Conqueror

[joannec32]

Hi everyone, I am new to this forum, so please forgive any inaccuracies.  I have been researching my Grandfather John Conqueror and his military history I am hoping that this forum might be able to shed further light on him.  One problem I have encountered is that it would appear that John and his brother William's records are mixed together or ??

Information known so far:  John Conqueror born 1st August 1880 Widnes (birth certificate)
William Conqueror born abt Sept 1878 in Manchester.

I know that a William Conqueror enlisted with The KOYLI on 11 July 1899 and stated that he had previously served with 4th Bn Manchester Regiment.  (His number with KOYLI 6128) but his birth date given works out to be that of his brother John's.

What I would like to know is, is there any mention anywhere of William or John Conqueror.  I am trying to work out whether John and William were both in the Manchester Regiment or did John sign up using his brother's name.  John Conqueror later re enlisted with the Manchester Regiment for World War 1. 

18th August 1914 attested Private Manchester 4th, 19th Sept 1914 appointed ??, 26th Sept 1914 appointed ? Sgt, transferred to MGC on 3rd March 1916.

The service numbers for John are: Manchester Regiment 2821 and the MGC 11889.
I am looking forward to hopefully learning some more about John Conqueror.
Kindest Regards.

[mack]

hiya joanne.
its a strange one,john appears to have given his brothers former service in the KOYLI,even the exact date of his discharge,and also his age,it makes no sense why he would lie about previous service.

mack

[joannec32]

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it.

My thoughts are that maybe John enlisted with the 4th Manchester Regiment (as per KOYLI papers)  prior to 1899 which possibly made him underage.  (I am not certain of the age for enlistement at that time) .Although why he would need to do this to enlist with the Koyli I don't know. Maybe he was known as William because of his surname and so enlisted under the same.

The age works out to be his birthdate. 

I continue to hope that maybe records somewhere will help to explain.