City Battalions - Photo Identity Project

[Tim Bell]

Hi Mack,

Please can we start 17th Battalion A Company III Platoon...

2nd Lt R F Mansergh (Awarded MC August 1916)

2nd Row. 4th from right.

I have good photo of My Grandad A A Bell, but can't spot him in the image. I will keep trying

Tim

I have now picked up a Hi- Res pic of III Platoon
Pt A A Bell Front Row 3rd from right
Sgt James Turner 2nd row. KiA 1/7/1916. 5th from right next to 2/Lt Mansergh (See MEN 17/7/1916)
L/Sgt H. Dixon 2nd row 2nd from left.  No known overseas service. Only man tram guards uniform and apparent 'older' age explains likelihood he stayed in Home Service or discharged.

Sergeant James D Turner 8903 was the second Sergeant from III Platoon to be killed in action on the 1st July.  The Salford Reporter* recounted a letter received by James' wife from another man in his Platoon.  This indicated he was reviewing sentry positions in Montauban when he was killed by a German shell; the shell also wounded one other man. Sergeant Turner had worked at Messrs. Haslams, Piccadily and lived at 15 Allen Street, Lower Broughton, Salford – in the same Salford suburb as Mark Jackson(the 1st Sgt. to die).  Aged 35, James left behind his widow Elizabeth and Daughter Marjorie.    Elizabeth and other family members commemorated James in the 1st anniversary edition of the Manchester Evening News.  Elizabeth wrote:-
"My memory often wanders, as the shadows fall,
Back to the days of happiness. Days beyond recall
Bravely he fought and fell."
Sergeant Turner's brother and sister in law, Sarah and Jack, also provided a poetic tribute:-
"In silent hours we think of you
And of all your pain
But in the land that no sorrow comes,
We hope to meet again."
James was an accomplished musician and member of the Central Hall Prize Band.  He was also a member of Swan Swimming Club.

Updated again in context of Harribobs Memorial Plaque.
Updated with H Dixon 6.11.13
*Courtesy SWARM

[harribobs]

Sgt James Turner 2nd row. KiA 1/7/1916. 5th from right next to 2/Lt Mansergh (See MEN 17/7/1916)

I do believe I have Sgt Turner's Death Plaque, I certainly have a James Turner's plaque and the people I bought it from assured me that is is his

chris

[Tim Bell]

17th Bttn A Coy CSM John H Green from I Pln photo
Unconfirmed

[Julia955]

  My grandfather
   
   Charles Pawsey   21st Manchester Regiment   Company B   Platoon no V
   roll number   18967
   Charles was a Corporal when he arrived in France on 10.11.1915 and a Seargent on his British war/ Victory medal. Transferred to reserve as fit on 24.1.1919.     He survived the war.

He is dead centre of the smaller pic.  2nd row up, 4th from the right , sitting.

[Julia955]

looks like 2nd pic didn't upload

[yowdoo]

Hi,


CQMS R Howard, 2nd row 4th left
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My Paternal grandfather, Reginald Sinclair Howard, 7537, Colour Sergeant, King's Own (Royal Lancaster) Regiment and 25648, Company Quartermaster Sergeant, Manchester Regiment.

If anybody has any further info on this soldier I'd be eternally grateful.

Best Regards,

David R. Howard

[mack]

he has a very detailed pension record on ancestry,theres not much we can add to that david

mack

[OrsoGrande]

Greetings!

Any reason why the 26th Reserve Battalion, Manchester Regiment, formed 1915, are not present on the photo' boards?

Were they considered less photogenic than other battalions?

Regards

OG

[PhilipG]

OrsoGrande,

I am sure the omission was neither intended nor implied, but rather that the City Battalions Book failed to include photographs of the 26th battalion.   Had it done so, I am sure we would all have been captivated by the photogenic qualities of that battalion, which you have hinted would inevitably have been the case.    Best regards, PhilipG.

[Cookie]

A few months ago I suggested to mack that we should try and identify as many of the men on the photographs in the City Battalions book. I figured that if we all contributed we could put more names to faces. It turned out that mack had already carried out a lot of the leg work for this several years ago. With his permission I've copied his work into the below posts. Would anyone with additional names please contribute to the post?

Thanks in advance

16th Battalion

Bugle Band
sgt Thomas Burke (7171), front row 4th left
Capt/adj E.G Sotham, front row 5th left

[Tim Bell]

17th Btn B company Platoon 5.

2nd row (seated) sixth from left is 8418 William S Butterworth. In the photo, he is a corporal. Promoted to sergeant, he was killed in action on the 1st of July 1916 leading his platoon at Montauban.

Lest we forget.

Paul

The other Cpl was Manchester Policeman James Appleyard - stood on extreme right of imagem wearing the navy uniform.  There's a portrait photo of him in the Police section.

[Tim Bell]

XIV Pln 17th Bttn
Cpl 8197 Mark Jackson second row from front, seated 8th from left.
Promoted Sgt and killed by sniper at Montauban on 1st July 1916.

[Gary D.]

My Grandfather 7451 Leonard Dawson was in 16th Btn, E Coy, XX Platoon. If this project is still ongoing any chance of a relevant unit photo being posted on the site? There is a chance I MAY be able to I/D him for your records. As I live in Australia I have not easy access to publications.Thanks in anticipation.

[Amelia]

C Coy Platoon X
17772 Pte (later Sgt) John Thompson, 4th row (up), 4th from right

My Grandfather John Thompson. Some Photographs for your collection (I tried to post this before, so I apologies if it has posted twice?)

[pete th]

Brilliant, thanks Amelia