City Battalions - Photo Identity Project

[mack]

hiya mark.
some time ago,you were also looking for the details of one of your pupils relatives,pte l.platt,i have just found this info about him,sorry its a bit late

pte 12179 laurence platt
enlisted 9th sept 1914
aged 19
19th manchesters
born at 19 henrietta st,higher broughton
lived at 22 back roman rd,higher broughton
worked as a provisions clerk at messrs coddington+lamb,35 peter st,manchester
went to france on 8-11-15
he was discharged as physically unfit on 4-11-1918 with a nervous breakdown due to shellshock,he was sent to the 3rd scottish gen hospital,glasgow and then admitted to the royal victorian hospital,edinburgh on 19th july 1918
in 1918 he was living at wayside cottage,arnside st,westmorland,in 1935 he was living with his wife and family at "hillcrest" sandyway,butterstile rd,prestwich
awarded SWB No43519 and kings certificate 63/244 on 1-5-19
he took reciept of his 1915 star on 14-4-21 and his war+victory medals on 29-10-21

mack

[mack]

That's undoubtedly him, first on the right, front row. He's the spitting image of my colleague's dad. As I say we have visited the grave at Carnoy on a couple of occasions but I don't think that the family has a surviving photo of him. How did you identify him?

hiya mark.
sorry to cast doubt about ernest,i always had a suspicion that he was the man in the front row,1st left

mack

[Mark Hone]

Thanks, Mack. In reply 3, at the start of this thread, Pete identifies him as 1st right on the front row (I assume he means right as we are looking at the photo, not 'stage right' as it were; that often causes confusion in itself) . As I say the chap there does look like my friend's dad, Ernest Armsbey's nephew but then we are apt to look for such likenesses. For example, the lollipop lady at school once looked at a picture my wife showed him of her son and she immediately said that he looked just like me, not realising that he is my step-son!
I'd be interested to know where the original identification came from.

[pete th]

Mark, for the best quality print it's worth paying £4.25 to purchase the book on CD (pdf format):

http://www.bookshop.mlfhs.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=21&zenid=f33eb24d70440ff3a6548219f2494ca3

Cheers
Pete

[Mark Hone]

Thanks, I'll do that.

[mack]

Thanks, Mack. In reply 3, at the start of this thread, Pete identifies him as 1st right on the front row (I assume he means right as we are looking at the photo, not 'stage right' as it were; that often causes confusion in itself) . As I say the chap there does look like my friend's dad, Ernest Armsbey's nephew but then we are apt to look for such likenesses. For example, the lollipop lady at school once looked at a picture my wife showed him of her son and she immediately said that he looked just like me, not realising that he is my step-son!
I'd be interested to know where the original identification came from.

hiya mark.
ernest was ID by someone on the great war forum many years ago,cant recall who sent me the info

mack

[timberman]

Hi Mark

This is the best I can do. (1st right)

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Timberman

[timberman]

and the one 1st left

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Timberman

[mack]

great work neil,now that they have been enlarged,i can see that ernest is the soldier on the right

mark
was ernests parents andrew+mary your colleagues gt grandparents
andrew was buried in southern cemetery on 10-4-1919 and mary was buried on 30-1-1923 they are both in S.CE.391,also buried with them is their daughter louisa,victoria,who was interred on 15-1-1941

mack

[Mark Hone]

Mack-I'll tell you in due course. I assume so, but I don't want to tip off my friend by asking him genealogical questions before giving him his present!
Incidentally another great-uncle of his was Private Willie Dickson of 16th Battalion who was killed on 1st July and is commemorated on Thiepval. He hasn't been identified on the platoon photos by any chance?

[mack]

Mack-I'll tell you in due course. I assume so, but I don't want to tip off my friend by asking him genealogical questions before giving him his present!
Incidentally another great-uncle of his was Private Willie Dickson of 16th Battalion who was killed on 1st July and is commemorated on Thiepval. He hasn't been identified on the platoon photos by any chance?

sadly he hasnt mark
i have this if its of help.

pte 7437 william dickson
enlisted 20-2-15
aged 19
16th manchesters
E.coy.XIX platoon
occupation,time keeper
son of william+mary 7 byrom st,broadway,salford
later moved to 58 tharlow st,eccles new rd
to france 8-11-15
admitted to the 97th field ambulance on 9-6-16 then to the 96th field ambulance the following day with scabies,rejoined his battalion on 25-6-16
killed in action 1-7-16

mack

[Mark Hone]

Thanks, Mack. I keep threatening to trawl the local papers in Salford to see if there's an obit and photograph of him, but I haven't done so thus far. Interesting about Laurence Platt as well. Thanks for all your help.

[timberman]

Glad it help Mack

Timberman

[Russ]

Hi

23rd Battalion D Company 13th Platoon.

Corporal 22365 Charles Young 2nd Row 2nd Left.

Russ 

[pete th]

Thanks Russ, I've updated the 23rd Battalion listing.

Cheers
Pete