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« Reply #30 on: February 19, 2010, 07:59:27 PM »
For sale  on ebay is a First World War Military Medal group of four awarded to A SJT T J SOUTHEY RE - although all his medals show his regiment as the Royal Artillery, which he was badged as prior to transferring to the Royal Engineers.

The medal group consists of the Military Medal named 39492 SJT RFA, the 1914-15 Star 39492 GNR RA, with the 1914-18 War Medal and 1914-1919 Victory Medal 39492 A SJT RA.

Thomas John SOUTHEY was Killed in Action on 19th August 1917 whilst serving with the 3rd Field Company Royal Engineers and he is buried in the Roisel Communal Extension. Although shown as the 3rd Field Company RE on the CWGC site, it is most likely that he actually served with the 3rd Field Survey Company RE which would have been involved with producing up to date topographical (trench) maps, carrying out battery surveys as well as producing map boards for the Royal Artillery. Additionally they also had Flash Spotting and Sound Ranging sections which were employed in OP's to find enemy artillery positions to allow counter- battery fire. This might perhaps explain his transfer from the Royal Artillery to the Royal Engineers.

The award of the Military Medal for Bravery in the Field is listed in the Fourth Supplement to the London Gazette dated Friday 25th May 1917, some 3 months before he was KIA, aged just 23 years old.

Thomas John Southey was born in Chelsea, Middlesex, lived in Clapham and then enlisted at Chelsea. He initially served as a Gunner in the Royal Field Artillery and he entered the France/Flanders theatre of war on 26 July 1915. As a Serjeant in the RFA he was awarded the MM. He was later transferred to the Royal Engineers as 245914 Serjeant with the 3rd Field Company RE. He was the son of Thomas and Frances Eliza Southey of 92 Broxash Road, Clapham Common, London.

Along with the medal group is some copied research, including the London Gazette detailing his name, a copy of the Medal Index Card which clearly shows that the medals were awarded under the Royal Engineers medal lists along with another copied sheet showing his details as shown above and a print-out of the CWGC page.

Admittedly a little confusing, requiring further research as to why the medals show his regiment as the Royal Artillery when by the time he died he was clearly serving with the Royal Engineers, albeit with a transfer difference of only 3 months between regiments/corps.

a World War 1 medal with ribbon in very good condition


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« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2010, 09:45:19 PM »
these men of the 23rd Battalion were awarded the MM for their good work during a raid in the Neuve Chapelle area on the 8th May

22745 Sgt  A Hare
22144 Cpl J O'Connor
28512 Pte A Lee
21526 Pte W Townley
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2010, 07:58:33 AM »

Correctly named to 2. LIEUT. J. A. SMITH.

In Very Fine Condition.

James Alexander Smith was Commissioned as 2nd Lieutenant into 2nd / 14th Battalion, London Regiment (London Scottish) on 30th January 1918 & immediately posted to the Battalion in France. In July 1918, they transferred into 90th Brigade, 30th Division. He was Awarded the MILITARY CROSS for his Gallantry in the YPRES Salient, during the Capture of the villages of NEUVE EGLISE & WULVERGHEM in Late August 1918.

The announcement & Citation was made in the London Gazette on 7th November 1918, & It states…

2nd Lt. James Alexander Smith, Lond. R.


He ended the war as a 2nd Lieutenant, & left the army in Spring 1919. This 'M.C WINNING OFFICER' Victory Medal comes with copy entries from the London Gazette for MC CITATION, Gallantry awards, 'Officer List', & Unit details.

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2010, 05:07:24 PM »
War Medal, Campaign Medal and Military Medal, awarded to Private H. S. Sutcliffe
of the 11th West Yorkshire Regiment.  Medals come with his discharge certificate,
photocopy of local newspaper announcement of the MM and also photocopy of London Gazette
announcement (1917).   All items found in a drawer when clearing relatives house.
Original condition, uncleaned and with one or two scuff marks, as would be expected,
but overall in good condition with original ribbons.
Item number: 230467006019
Item location: Corwen, Denbighshire, United Kingdom

 howard, could be worth getting in touch with the seller

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« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2010, 07:29:05 AM »
Item number: 250623000598
Item location: St Andrews, fife, United Kingdom

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« Reply #36 on: May 03, 2010, 07:09:25 AM »
original Military Medal (MM) awarded to 10272 Pte Arthur Walter Hill,
 6th Battalion Kings Own Yorkshire Light Infantry (KOYLI).
 Medal has a very shiny patina, but I think the medal ribbon is probably a replacement.
 The medal is correctly impressed on the rim: 10272 Pte A. Hill. 6/Yorks.L.I.
 The swivel is a little free but secure. 

Also included in the auction is my research into the medal which includes:
 a timeline for Pte Hill/6 Bn KOYLI up to his death on 15th Sep 1916,
a copy of the London Gazette awarding the MM (dated 14 Nov 1916),
 CWGC printout and a copy of his Medal Record Card (MIC).
 Pte Hill was awarded the MM for his part in 6 KOYLI/14 Light Div's attack
in the Battle of Flers-Courcellette at the infamous Delville (Devil's) Wood.
 Interestingly, tanks were first used in this battle, and there is record of 1 x tank
 assisting the advance of Pte Hill's Company. 
 A nice medal with an interesting background
Item number: 180502285817
Item location: Ripon, United Kingdo

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« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2010, 08:00:07 AM »
This is a medal issued to Private   John Freddrick Siddall
 from the 7th battailian east yorkshire on  8th Jan 1919
he had served 4 years 123 days he was aged 21.
it is edgraved around the edge 12205 J . F Siddall 7/ east yorkshire r..
he was discharged from the army due to being wounded i
 also have the wounded papers issued with the medal.
Item number: 110528174610
Item location: WALSALL, West Midlands, United Kingdom

Military Medal awarded to Corporal Andrew McDonald, 6th Battalion Seaforth Highlanders,
 for a trench raid in September, 1916, when it was found that three men of the raiding
party were missing he went back with an officer to the German trenches three times
bringing in a wounded man each time.   Corporal McDonald was mortally wounded on the
opening day of the Arras offensive on the 9 April, 1917, and died three days later.

Military Medal (GVR), (2266 Corpl. A. McDonald. 1/6 Seaforth Highlanders T.F.).
 Medal in GVF condition.  Accompanied by copy MIC for war medals and MM. 
Copy extracts from local newspapers.  Copy extracts from war diary.
 Copy of London Gazette entry.

A photograph of the raiding party appears in Derek Bird’s book on the
6th Seaforth Highlanders, “The Spirit of the Troops is Excellent”,
and Corporal McDonald is presumably one of the men in the group.
 Further research may be able to put names to faces.

Andrew McDonald was born on 29 February, 1895, in Tomdhu, Nethy Bridge, Inverness-shire,
 the second son of Alexander McDonald a crofter of Ballieward, Grantown-on-Spey,
 his mother was Jane McDonald (daughter of James Grant).  He had been residing in
Morayshire since he was five years old and was educated at Grantown Grammer School.
 After leaving school became a Stone Mason.   He joined the 6th Seaforth Highlanders
on 22 September 1914 and was allocated regimental number 2266.[1]

On the 5 September, 1916, the 6th Battalion took over front line trenches from the
 4th Gordon Highlanders near Armentieres.   Generally the situation was quiet.
 Several times daily the enemy trenches were bombarded by Stokes’ guns and trench mortars
in conjunction with artillery.  The enemy retaliated with minnenwerfer and artillery fire.  The battalion was planning a trench raid, planned for the 16 September, and patrols were sent out nightly, patrolling right up to the enemy wire.[2]  It was later reported that: -

Much of the success of the operation was due to the determination displayed by
 Corporal Hamilton and Private Andrew Macdonald, and to the excellent patrol work carried
out by them for a fortnight prior to the raid. [3]

Between the 6–15 September the situation was reported as normal.  Working parties were
supplied by day and night and patrols went out nightly opposite Railway Salient. 
The raid had been for sometime been practised on duplicates of the enemy trenches.

On the night of the 16 September the raid by the 1/6th Battalion Seaforth Highlanders on
enemy trenches located on Railway Salient was carried out.  It was for this raid and in
helping to bring away three wounded men Private McDonald was awarded the Military Medal.
 Private McDonald formed part of No. 2 Raiding Party and an abridged version of the report
 made after the raid is shown below: -  [4]


No. 2 Party under Lieut. D. F. Jenkins left our trenches at 7.57 pm and placed Torpedo as
arranged under the German wire at [trench map reference].  This Party then returned to
our trenches and the Officer led his Party out to within 20 yards of the German wire.
This Party was waiting about ten minutes in “No man’s land” before the Torpedo exploded.

The placing of the Torpedos in position was done without difficulty and though some noise
was made it was not spotted by the enemy’s sentries.

Punctual on Zero time the two Torpedoes [one for each Raiding Party] exploded almost
simultaneously, leaving Gaps absolutely clear through the German wire 15 feet broad and
25 yards deep.
No. 2 Party entered by gap made by Torpedo and found a ditch full of water and mud in
front of the parapet.  This may be an old German trench.  No sentries were seen at this
point but rifles and equipment were found hanging up on the parapet.  This trench had a
dummy parapet made of boards about three feet high behind which were the dug-outs. 
Four dug-outs were bombed with good results and after proceeding ten yards along the
trench the Party encountered an organised German Bombing Party.  These were bombed for
about two minutes and seemed to be all knocked out.  Our Party sustained five casualties,
two slightly wounded, and three seriously.  Orders were given to retire by Gap of
entrance.  The Party met a number of Germans coming from the rear.  Three men of our Party
caught one and carried him out into a shell-hole in “No man’s land”.  The remainder were
bombed and many killed.  The Party then retired by the Gap of entrance having been in the
German trenches for about six minutes.

The trenches were found to be in good condition and revetted with wicker work.
On a bugle sounding (the withdraw) and three Very lights being fired in quick succession
No. 2 Party withdrew to our trenches where Lieut. Jenkins found that three men of his Party
were missing and went back to the German trenches accompanied by No. 2266 Pte. A. McDonald.  They made three journeys bringing in a wounded man each time.  No fire to speak of was opened by the Germans till this Party were bringing in their last wounded man.  The Parties were reported all in by Lieut. Macdonald at 9.35 pm
The Barrage opened punctually and can only be described as perfect.[5]  All ranks taking
part in the Raid were unanimous in their praise.  The efficiency of the Barrage is borne
out by the fact that no German machine gun fired for 40 minutes.  The casualties caused by
the Barrage must have been fairly heavy as both Parties report on entering the trenches
parties of the enemy were rushing away from the Salient and thus running into our Barrage.

The enemy were evidently taken by surprise and nearly all seemed to be in a
dazed condition, only two beside the bombing party offering any resistance.
 The prisoners taken were all so frightened that they refused to move over the parapet,
and the sight of the lassoos seemed to make them worse.  All had therefore to be killed
except the one, whom Lieut. Jenkins had bodily carried out.

The Parties wore Dayfield Bombing Shields which were found to be a great success saving
many minor casualties from splinters.
Although it is impossible to calculate with any degree of accuracy the exact number of
German casualties killed and wounded the citation for Corporal Hamilton’s Distinguished
Conduct Medal awarded for his part in the raid states, “…Some 50 of the enemy were killed
and one captured during the raid.” 

Writing home about the raid one of the men later wrote [6]
A great night’s fun…One prisoner was taken back.  A few more were seized, but they refused
to come over, so they had to pay the price that so many of our own brave lads have paid.
 Our prisoner seemed quite pleased with himself, but he was rather shaky at first.  He
handed to his captor a photograph of his wife.

The success of the raid was greatly appreciated by the Corps Commander who awarded a
total of two Military Crosses, one Distinguished Conduct Medal and five Military Medals
 to the raiding party, one of which was awarded to Corporal Andrew MacDonald who became
the first soldier in the Grantown district to be awarded the Military Medal.[7]. 

The 6th Seaforths were heavily involved in the next major offensive on the 8 April, 1917,
at Arras.  A & C Companies were in the trenches east of Roclincourt.  B Company moved from
Anzin to the assembly trenches.  D Company marched from “X” Hutments to assembly trenches.  Enemy artillery was very active on our trenches.
The following day the offensive was opened by the Third Army who attacked in compliance
with a directive from the new French Commander in Chief, General Robert Nivelle, which was
to be a curtain raiser for a larger French attack to the south, along the Chemin des Dames.
   The 6th Battalion Seaforth Highlanders attacked three lines of enemy’s trenches East
 of Roclincourt at 5.30 a.m. and succeeded in capturing its objective known as the
“BLACK LINE.  Corporal Andrew McDonald, “C” Company, was hit in the thigh and both legs
during the attack and dangerously wounded he was evacuated to hospital.[8]
 Tragically on the 13 April he succumbed to his wounds at Etaples Hospital and was buried
in Etaples Cemetery. 

Andrew McDonald’s parents subsequently received a number of letters from those who were
with their son during his last moments.   One was from the chaplain at the hospital where
Andrew McDonald lay mortally wounded.  He wrote: [9]

When I saw him to-day he was very weak, but even in his weakness he shows a fine spirit,
 and was anxious that I should send you a cheery letter for him.  Poor Lad!  I don’t know
whether he will be able to pull through or not, for he is very seriously ill, but you may
 rest assured that all that can be done for him will be done.  He is in the loving hands
of a Heavenly Father, and before I left him we had a short prayer together.

Writing the following day the Chaplin’s worst fears were realised:
It is a very great grief to us all when these brave men pass from our midst, but yours
is the sorest grief, and we should like to offer you our deep sympathy in your sorrow. 
Corporal Macdonald has, like many others, made the supreme sacrifice, and ‘greater love
hath no man this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.’  Those who have yielded
themselves unto death are in the Heavenly Father’s gracious keeping, and in Him they are
safe.  His body rests in the British military cemetery at Etaples.[10]

Sergeant G. Dixon[11] also wrote to Alexander and Jane McDonald that their son was:
….wounded while the first German trench was being stormed.  “Andy” was a great favourite
with everyone.  He was in my platoon, and I shall miss him greatly, for he was a good and
brave soldier.  The battalion was in the thick of it, and suffered a good deal.  [12]
The final word is contained in The Strathspey Herald:

A local Territorial writes thus of the late Corporal Macdonald, winner of the Military
Medal – “He was one of the very few of the original battalion who had served with it since
 its arrival in France.  A faithful, brave soldier, he earned his decoration.  For a
considerable time he acted as stretcher-bearer, and gained the admiration of all for his
 untiring energy and devotion to the wounded.  Latterly he was promoted corporal, and
proved himself a competent n.c.o.  His death will cast a gloom over C Company, in which
he was so popular.”[13]

[1] Morayshire Roll of Honour, page 258.
[2] WO95/2867
[3] The Strathspey Herald, 12 October 1916.
[4] WO95/2867
[5] During the raid the 2” Mortars fired 228 rounds.  Stokes Guns 981 rounds.
   Vickers Guns 29,500 rounds.  18-Pounders about 1,200 rounds.  4.5” Howitzers about
   100 rounds.  Rifle Grenades several hundreds. [WO95/2861 – 152nd Infantry Brigade
   War Diary]
[6] The Strathspey Herald, 28 September 1916.
[7] The Strathspey Herald, 19 April 1917.
[8] WO95/2867 and The Strathspey Herald, 26 April 1917.
[9] The Strathspey Herald, 26 April 1917.

[10] Etaples is a town about 27 kilometres south of Boulogne.
The Military Cemetery is to the north of the town, on the west side of the road to
Boulogne.  During the First World War, the area around Etaples was the scene of immense
concentrations of Commonwealth reinforcement camps and hospitals. It was remote from
attack, except from aircraft, and accessible by railway from both the northern or the
southern battlefields. In 1917, 100,000 troops were camped among the sand dunes and the
hospitals, which included eleven general, one stationary, four Red Cross hospitals and a
convalescent depot, could deal with 22,000 wounded or sick. In September 1919, ten months
after the Armistice, three hospitals and the Q.M.A.A.C. convalescent depot remained. The
cemetery contains 10,773 Commonwealth burials of the First World War, the earliest dating
 from May 1915. 35 of these burials are unidentified.

[11] 265426 (previously 1724) Sergeant George Dixon, 6th Battalion.
[12] The Strathspey Herald, 26 April 1917.
[13] The Strathspey Herald, 3 May 1917.
Item number: 160430831785
Item location: West Midlands, United Kingdom

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« Reply #38 on: May 05, 2010, 09:30:15 PM »
In 2003 Chris Bate,and myself were advised by William Spencer that the Original MM Cards were available to us as the MOD wished to dispose of them.We went to Hayes and collected approx 118,000 cards in 45 large boxes.Since then the card info has been transferred to disc and work is concluding on entering the info from the back of the cards onto the nominal roll.The Roll will contain the following details..NAME/RANK/NUMBER/BATTALION OR SUB UNIT/L/G DATE/CASUALTY DETAILS ,CWG,SOLDIERS DIED/IF COMMISSIONED DETAILS, DATE COMMISSIONED/NOTES IF ANY FROM BACK OF CARD/REG PAPER AND SCHEDULE NUMBERS/BIOGRAPHICAL DETAILS IF AVAILABLE/and finally CITATIONS/RECOMMENDATIONS taken from literally hundreds of sources.Currently I have accumulated over 20,000 recommendations which are currently being laid on the Roll. I have all the AIF CITATIONS,and am on the trail of the CANADIANS about 8000 in all.

Have I understood correctly that you have all the record cards of soldiers awarded the Military Medal in WW1? I have been searching for details of my great Uncle Lance Corporal James A(Alfred) Ryder MM (Reg no 303395) who was killed on 21 March 1918. He served with the 2/6th Battalion Manchester Regiment. All I have been able to find is his record on Wargraves and 1 medal card which does not mention the MM and which gives his rank as Private. So far, I have been unable to track any mention of the citation or recommendation. Various contacts are scouring the 2/6th War Diaries for any mention of him. If they find anything I will pass them on to you for the roll.

In the meantime, if you could give me any details about his MM, I would be so grateful. I am visiting the Pozieres Monument where he is commorated on a plaque, later this year.

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« Reply #39 on: May 07, 2010, 05:09:51 PM »
Military Medal, 1914-15 Star Trio, Memorial Plaque and Service Papers

 10084 L.CPL F.H. HIGGINS. 5/DORSET: R. mm.

These guaranteed 100% genuine medals and plaque come with: copy Medal Index Card (colour –
 front and back), copy Medal Rolls for the 1914-15 Star and British War and Victory Medals
(confirming the award of the trio), Military Medal Index Card, copy London Gazette entry
and header for the Military Medal (5th January 1917), Commonwealth War Graves Commission
and Soldiers Died in the Great War details, copy Battalion War Diary for September,
October and November 1916 and September and October 1918, extracts from the History of
the Dorsetshire Regimental History, copy Overseas Death Certificate, colour photographs
of his  grave and most importantly a copy of his Service Papers (23 pages).


Frederick Henry Higgins was born in Bristol, Gloucestershire.  He was living in Puddletown
, Dorset when he enlisted voluntarily into the Army in Dorchester on the 28th August 1914.  
He was 19 years and 3 months old and gave his occupation as ‘dairyman’.  At a medical the
same day he was described as being 5 feet 7 inches tall, weighing 119 pounds and as having
 a 35 inch chest.    He also had brown hair, hazel eyes and a ‘fresh’ complexion.  
Frederick was passed ‘fit’ for military service and joined the Depot of the
 Dorsetshire Regiment in Dorchester the next day, as Private 10085.  On the 1st September
 1914 he was posted to the newly formed 5th (Service) Battalion of the Dorsetshire Regiment.

The 5th Battalion was formed in August 914 in Dorchester as part of Kitchener’s
First New Army (K1) and moved to Belton Park (Grantham), initially attached as Army Troops
to 11th (Northern) Division.  On the 29th September 1914, Frederick was posted to
11th Divisional Field Ambulance, Royal Army Medical Corps at Sheffield, presumably to
undertake some sort of basic medical training prior to his battalion’s deployment overseas

After eleven days at Sheffield he was posted back to his Regiment, rejoining them on the
 10th October 1914.  On the 8th January 1915 the 5th Battalion transferred to 34th Brigade
in 11th Division.  After further training in the UK the battalion finally sailed from
Liverpool aboard the Aquitania on the 3rd July 1915, going via Mudros (11th) and landing
at “A” Beach, Suvla Bay on 6th August 1915.  Whilst on the peninsular they received the
Battle Honours “Suvla”, “Landings at Suvla”, “Scimitar Hill” and Gallipoli 1915”
(for more information on the 5th Battalion’s time at Gallipoli go to the Regimental Museum website here).

The 5th Battalion was evacuated from Gallipoli on the 16th December 1915 and went to Egypt
 via Mudros.  They remained in Egypt until the 3rd July 1916, when they left Alexandria
for France aboard the Transylvania, arriving at Marseilles on the 9th, moving to the Somme
 and arriving in position opposite Mouquet Farm on the 16th September.  The battalion
attacked at Mouquet Farm on the 26th September 1916, during the Battle of Thiepval and it
was during this action on the 26th and 27th that Frederick was awarded his Military Medal*.  

Frederick was appointed Lance Corporal on the 23rd October 1916 and a month later, on the
15th November, the battalion war diary records that he was awarded his military medal
(probably just the ribbon) whilst the battalion were at Pernois, north of Amiens.  
The award was later announced in the London Gazette of the 6th January 1917.

Frederick was promoted to Corporal on the 9th June 1917 and was then granted leave from
the 22nd November to 6th December 1917.  He continued to serve with the 5th Battalion
throughout 1918, until on the 1st October 1918 Frederick Henry Higgins, MM, was killed in
action, during the Battle of Canal du Nord.  He was one of 16 ordinary ranks killed in
action that day and was buried in the Chapel Corner Cemetery, Sauchy-Lestree north west
 of Cambrai, France.

After the war his medals were sent to his mother, Fanny Higgins of Stockton, Codford St.
 Mary in Wiltshire.

*The attack on Mouquet Farm was the only major action by the 5th Battalion during the
Battle of the Somme.  Other men named in the war diary as receiving gallantry awards at
the same time as Frederick (November 1916) are named as displaying exceptional bravery
during this action, so it is safe to say that although  not named, his award was for the
same action.

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« Reply #40 on: May 11, 2010, 07:29:44 AM »
not a  military medal but a little info on the 19th bn manchesters.

A 1917 Military Cross GV, British War & Victory Medals to 2/Lieutenant Wilfred John May,
2nd Battalion West Yorkshire Regiment from Northwood, Middlesex who was awarded the MC
for patrol work around Hendecourt 29 May 1917 and later died of wounds 1st August 1917
received during the battle of Pilckem Ridge. With his father's Special Constabulary
Long Service Medal clasp 'The Great War 1914-18'
Military Cross GV
Unnamed as awarded
British War & Victory Medals named

2.Lieut W J May
Special Constabulary Long Service Medal GV clasp 'The Great War 1914-18' named
John A May
With copy Medal Index Card confirming the award of the British War & Victory Medals only,
 London Gazette entries & headers, copies from Regimental History etc.

Wilfred John May first served with the 15th London Regiment (Civil Service Rifles) as
 Private number 1427. Commissioned 2/Lieutenant 26 February 1917 into the West Yorkshire
 Regiment he served in France with the 2nd Battalion. Military Cross London Gazette 26 May 1917

'For conspicuous gallantry. He led a patrol in the most gallant manner, and inflicted heavy casualties on the enemy. He set a splendid example of courage and initiative'.

The Regimental History records..............

'On 29 May a brisk little affair took place. At dusk 2/Lieutenants May & Yorke proceeded,
each with fifteen men and a Lewis gun, to enter and occupy Hendecourt. The latter and his
 men got close to a hostile post just south of the village, and there met heavy rifle and
machine gun fire which caused about seven casualties and stopped the operations of that
patrol. 2/Lieutenant Yorke was severely wounded and carried away with difficulty. All other
s got back except one man. 2/Lieutenant May was more fortunate and entered Hendecourt,
 but opening fire on enemy machine guns to assist 2/Lieutenant Yorke's party, the enemy
began closing in on him from all directions and in superior numbers. On these groups he
opened a lively fire and did some damage, and then was abliged to withdraw his men
adroitly. Hednecourt was captured the following day by the Middlesex & Devons'.

On 31 July the opening day of the Third Ypres, battle of Pilckem Ridge the 2nd West
 Yorkshires were part of 21st Brigade, 30th Division which attacked at 0350.
 The 2nd supported by 19th Manchesters and 2nd Wiltshires. The Brigade was held up in the
 dug outs by enemy shell fire and they just missed the barrage. This caused confusion in
the subsequent advance through Sanctuary Wood, with the result that the Battalions became
intermixed. On leaving Sanctuary Wood they came under machine gun fire at Stirling Castle
500 yards to their front. Unable to cature the Castle until reinforced by 89th Brigade in
 support. Bodmin Copse was taken.

Wilfred John May died of wounds 1 August 1917 he almost certainly received his fatal
wound on 31 July the attack cost the 2nd West Yorkshires three officers killed, three
officers died of wounds, five officers wounded, twenty one other ranks killed and 152
wounded with a further thirty six missing. Agged 22 Wilfred John May was the son of
John A May and Clara Elizabeth May of 14 Roy Road, Northwood, Middlesex. CWGC records
he was born South Hackney, London and now rests in Lijssenthoek Military Cemetery,
Item number: 220603809667
Item location: Warsash,Hampshire,  
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« Reply #41 on: May 14, 2010, 06:34:53 PM »
Thanks Tony,Interest in Roll continues.NZEF Citations arrived airmail today.Still no luck with Tomlinson DCM 18/ Manch R. Think he was a runner pow same time as Evans VC AT GUIILEMONT JULY 1916.cANT FIND ANY DETAIL. bEST W, hOWARD


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« Reply #42 on: May 14, 2010, 06:58:12 PM »
TO hesadevil.....The Roll shows PTE J A RYDER 303395 2/8TH BN MM L/G 14.1.18.My info on this gazette says YPRES POSSIBLY 9.10.17.BUT NO REAL EVIDENCE. All my entries so far on this gazette show Oct 1917.The 2/8 may be a clerical error for 2/6th. hope this is helpful best w, Howard


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« Reply #43 on: May 14, 2010, 07:02:46 PM »
Hi Tony, I got the trio to Craig thanks MM for 1st july 1916 with 2/Seaforth as a m/gunner. Best w, Howard

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« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2010, 07:53:29 PM »
TO hesadevil.....The Roll shows PTE J A RYDER 303395 2/8TH BN MM L/G 14.1.18. My info on this gazette says YPRES POSSIBLY 9.10.17.BUT NO REAL EVIDENCE. All my entries so far on this gazette show Oct 1917.The 2/8 may be a clerical error for 2/6th. hope this is helpful best w, Howard

Thank you so much for this, Howard. I had surmised that the medal had been won at the Third Ypres and this more or less agrees. The 2/8th Battalion were at the Battle of Poellcapelle on 9 October 1917 -  82 casualties. From his Reg. number, Dave on the Manchester Regiment Forum confirmed that James enlisted at Manchester with 2/8th Battalion. They were disbanded in Feb 1918 and many men were sent to 2/6th. James' medal card gives his rank as Private. The wargraves entry gives it as Lance Corporal. I assume he was promoted on his move to the 2/6th Battalion. James was killed at the Battle of St Quentin, 21 March 1918. His Company was at Fervaque Farm. The 2/6th War diaries for the day are as follows.

21 March Bombardment of front support line ... opening by enemy at 4.35am by HE gas shells. Thick mist prevailed all morning. Boys unable to  assume Battle positions. All communicarions ground .... out.
11am Casualties up to now light 2nd Lt G. Carmichael Killed. Enemy reported in view on RED LINE.

11.15am Enemy reported to have ....RED line between left and right Coys (A & C) hand to hand fighting took place, but swing in mist enemy was able to surround both Coys. Bn NQs formed defensive line on COTE WOOD (N.Line)

The remains of Btn relieved the line running N through CARPEZA COPSE & got into .... with right and left joining our one remaining coy. This coy was re... to to forwards & re... line 500 W of FRERVAQUE FARM to HESBECOURT - MAGICOURT Road. Btn HQ CARPEZA COPSE.
.... of Btn now found to be 12 officers & 150 ORs. on night of 21/3/18. 2 squadrens of dismounted cavalry joined  as reinforcements.
This line was held until morning of 22/3/18, unit surrounded on three sides owing to heavy mist which delined at dusk 21/3/18.

C.A. Anderton Capt

Thanks again.