acting corporal JOSEPH HENRY YARDLEY

[sketch]

hello.
was wondering if anyone could offer any more info on a relative of mine.
this is him on the cwgc website.

Name:   YARDLEY, JOSEPH HENRY
Initials:   J H
Nationality:   United Kingdom
Rank:   Corporal
Regiment/Service:   Manchester Regiment
Unit Text:   2nd Bn.
Date of Death:   01/07/1916
Service No:   2328
Casualty Type:   Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:   Pier and Face 13 A and 14 C.
Memorial:   THIEPVAL MEMORIAL

thanks !

[harribobs]

Hi Sketch

and welcome to the group

we will see what we can find out about him

for starters, her is his entry in Soldiers Died in the Great War

Chris

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[sketch]

thanks .
i did manage to get to the archives in manchester but only had a short time to spend there
and i couldnt find any record of him anywhere , which i thought was a bit odd...
also, what exactly is meant by "acting" corporal and what would lead to someone being an "acting" officer ?

[timberman]

Hi sketch

Welcome to the forum.

In the War Diaries for the 1st July 1816 there is a lot of information but no records of wounded or killed soldiers.

An Acting rank, is a military designation allowing an commissioned- or non-commissioned officer to assume a rank—usually higher and usually temporary—with the pay and allowances appropriate to that grade. As such, an officer may be ordered back to the previous grade. This situation may arise when a lower-ranking officer is called upon to replace a senior officer, or fill a position higher than the current rank held.

If you have an acting rank it can be taken away by the commanding officer if you do something wrong.

If it is not an acting rank it can only be taken away by a Court-martial

Timberman

[sketch]

thanks for clearing that up for me timberman...
and did you mean 1st of july 1916 not  1816 ?

[timberman]

1916

[mack]

hiya sketch
pte 7255 joseph,henry yardley
enlisted 24-10-1901 at ashton
aged 22
3rd manchesters
occupation temporary labourer at crewe railway station,london+north western railway
born 48 dean st,over,winsford
parents,william+mary
resided with his married sister,mrs louisa allen,at 19 oldfield buildings,salford,also residing there,was his older brother,john
24-10-01 till 27-7-02 served at home
28-7-02 till 15-12-02 guarding boer prisoners on st.helena
16-12-02 till 27-10-06 in south africa,on 28-3-04 extended his service to 8yrs
28-10-06 till 3-11-09 with the 1st batt in india
4-11-09 till 23-10-13 home service,on 11-10-10 extended his service for another 12mths
23-10-13 completed his term of engagement
re-engaged on the outbreak of war as 2328 joseph,henry yardley,2nd manchesters
1891 father was living at 11 mansion st,salford
killed in action,1-7-16
aged 37

description.
height 5.4
weight 115Ibs
chest 33inch
eyes.hazel
hair.dark brown

in late 1918 the family were no longer living at 19 oldfield buildings,it was the home of pte 2928 thomas leigh,4th manchesters

mack

[sketch]

thanks mack thats fantastic ! really appreciate it !
can anyone fill me in of the likely whereabouts and events leading up to the 1st of july?
would i be right in saying he would of most likely of been just south of thiepval woods attacking the town on the 1st?
and where were they beforehand ?
i`m planning my first trip over next year so would like to know where to go?
thanks

[tonyrod]

hi sketch, have a look at the main site,on the 2/battalion
http://www.themanchesters.org/2nd%20batt.htm.
also the 32 division on ,http://www.1914-1918.net/32div.htm ,   tonyrod

[sketch]

thanks tony just need to find a photo now !

[tonyrod]

just found this site, http://www.madca.org.uk/warmem/warmem4.htm, tonyrod

[sketch]

thanks i actually own the book "34 men" thats what started my search for more information !