Corporal Samuel Salthouse - serv No. 29834 East Lancs Regiment

[KSP]

Hi Mack,

I wish I knew how you found out all this info!  Thanks very much for taking the trouble.

James's Business was not as glorified as a shop I am afraid.  He ran market stalls in many places including Ashton, Higher Openshaw & Shudehill Market in Manchester.   Apparently he was very successful though, hence the number of staff I suppose.

Was Wilfrid genuinely in the Manchester Regiment, rather than moved to East Lancs like Samuel?  I think he was still alive after 1918, do you happen to know anything about his service record? - Chancing my arm eh!


Have you had any thoughts on where I might locate an Obituary for Samuel?  I would love to track it down if there was one.

Cheers

Sara

[mack]

hiya sara.
wilfred only served with the manchesters.
i searched the ashton reporter,but i couldnt find samuel,he may turn up in some of the stuff that woodys doing for the colonel.
mack

[mack]

sara.
most of the service records for men whos surname began with S,survived the bombing in ww2,monsstar[roy]is the resident researcher at kew,he doesnt charge a fortune,and hes thorough,linda and other members use his services,drop him a PM.
mack

[Wendi]

how did the lines get on this post

Mack it's the brackets.  The square ones [ and ] are understood by the web as "commands"  to avoid it happening again it's best to use the rounded brackets ( and ) by pressing shift and 9 or shift and 0

I've taken them out for you 

Wendi 

[Wendi]

Do you mind me asking how you source your info? 

Not at all sara that's what we are here for !!!

I actually subscribe to www.ancestry.co.uk if you watch the national press there are often introductory offers, free for the first month and such like.  Another good subscription site is www.findmypast.com

However there is a lot on the web for free.  http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ have the indexes for Births, Marriages and Deaths in England & Wales.

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp have the 1881 Census and various parish records.

I guess it really depends upon what exactly you are looking for.

What kind of blanks are you drawing

Wendi 

[KSP]

Thanks once again Mack and Wendi,

Mack,

I will keep my fingers crossed that Woody's search turns something up re the Obituary for Samuel.  Do you think the Ashton Reporter is the most likely publication to have anything?

I will contact Monsstar, I assume PM means personal message?  If a record exists is it likely to have a photo do you think?

Wendi,

Thanks for those suggested sites, I had looked at www.ancestory.co.uk so maybe I'll follow that up.

I am working my way back in time, currently trying to complete detail on Samuel's immediate family.  Using the censuses I have managed to find his brothers and sisters that survived, but the ages indicate that there may have been others that died either at birth or a young age.  Also trying to find dates of death is tricky, when I look up the death registers I just seem to get results based on the surname (even though it asks for Christian name as well) and then end up with just about every quarter coming up as a match but having no relevant info on them.

Cheers

[mack]

a good paper to search,is the cheshire herald

[KSP]

Thanks once againMack,

You knew I was going to ask how I do that!  Can it be done over the internet or do you have to visit somewhere in person?

Also I tried to send a message to 'monsstar' but the name isn't recognised, have I got the wrong name?

Really sorry, I am a pest I know!

[harribobs]

we're here to answer questions    so don't worry

roy's name on the forum is   themonsstar  go to the member list and find him there or look for one of his posts ( although they are a bit rare  )

chris

[KSP]

Cheers Chris,

I will try again.

[Wendi]

Hi sara !

Tracing deaths is very tricky, often family graves give up more information than trying to track down the indexes, but of course you have to have some idea where they are buried 

Wendi 

[Fritz Bayer]

i think we may have someone on the forum who can give you a better idea of what the ELs were doing at the time of his death  (Fritz??)

Sorry! Just seen this thread (been internet-free for a week away grave-robbing (heaven!!!))

Anyway, on the night of 18th/19th July 1917, the 7/ELR went into the frontline, holding a section just west of Groenlinde Caberet (at the extremeties of the line captured after the Messines battle) - C & D coys were actually in the frontline, B Coy in Rose Wood and A Coy in reserve in Goudezonne Farm.The approaches to these positions were constantly shelled and were considered extremely hazardous, but the actual tour in the line (upto the 24th as far as I can make out) was considered a quiet one with just occasional shelling of the front and the usual sniper activity (though the last day involved an attack on Green Wood in which the 7/ELR were victims of a "friendly fire" incident).

Hope this helps (bet you're going to ask for a map extract now aren't you? )

Dave

[Fritz Bayer]

Hope this helps (bet you're going to ask for a map extract now aren't you? )

Go on then (map dated 18th July 1917)...



Dave

[harribobs]

amazing!

thanks dave 

[KSP]

Sorry I have not been on line for a while.

Just wanted to say thanks very much to Dave for the information on movements at the time of Samuel's death.

Cheers,  thanks for taking the trouble.

Sara