Joseph JERVIS Pte 7123 5th Battalion Manchester Regt

[djervis]

Hello,

My name is Denise and I�ve been researching my family history for the last 10 years, I�ve just come across your site and I�m very impressed with the information the experts are able to provide. Recently I discovered my Gfathers Boer War attestation papers on Ancestry, he was Joseph JERVIS Pte 7123 5th Battalion Manchester Regiment, enlisted 10 March 1900, served in Africa 17 March 1901 to 18 May 1902, awarded the Queens South Africa, Clasp Transvaal Cape Colony, Sth Africa 1901 and 1902 (hope I have that right, the document is hard to read). My father believes he also served in WW1, but I have been unable to verify. I�d be interested in further information on where he might have been stationed in Sth Africa, also research advice, on line if possible as it�s a tad difficult for me to visit England as I live in Australia

Kind regards
Denise

[Wendi]

Hi Denise and a Warm Welcome to our Forum.

I'll move your post over to the Boer War Section and see if anyone has anything to add.

As far as research is concerned, his service record should be at The National Archives.  Our man at Kew is themonsstar who, I'm sure would be happy to give you a quote to research on your behalf.

With regard to his WW1 service.  How old would he have been in 1914?  As you probably know an Ancestry search produces only 9 soldiers with Medal Index Cards and none in the Manchester Regiment.  Have you discounted the 5 Service Records and 4 Pension Records?

Wendi 

[mack]

hiya denise.
welcome to the forum,your gt grandfather was a member of the 5th volunteer battalion,manchester regt,he was recalled to the colours and posted to A.company,1st manchesters,he went to south africa,on 17th march 1901,he served in the transvaal,orange free state and cape colony,he returned to england on 18th may 1902,he discharged himself at ashton under lyne,at his own request,on 12th june 1902
son of joe jervis.4 cable st,salford
religion roman catholic
attestation date,10-3-1900
aged 22

mack

[Robert Bonner]

Denise.
Welcome to the Forum.  Mack has already given you a lot of information and I can fill in a few gaps.  The 5th Volunteer Battalion were the predecessors of the 8th (Ardwick) battalion, which you will read a lot about in the forum.  Joseph Jervis enlisted in the battalion, age 18 on 25 March 1897.  He was then in number 8 Company based in the drill hall on Ardwick Green (still in use today).He was selected as one of the volunteers to go to South Africa with the 2nd Volunteer Service Company.  They sailed from Liverpool on 24 March 1901 and on arrival in South Africa joined the 1st Manchesters who were then based in Machadodorp. For the rest of their time they moved constantly between Machadodorp, Lydenberg and Dullstroom.

The 2nd Volunteer Service Company had a very active time fighting the Boers and also spent time in building and guarding blockhouses and on convoy duties.

The attestation date provided by Mack is in respect of his volunteering for overseas service with the 2nd VSC, as is the discharge date of 12 June 1902, the company having returned to Ashton-under-Lyne on 5 June. He actually continued with the Ardwick battalion until resigning on 19 January 1903. At some stage in the war he was promoted Lance Corporal.

Another Jervis - Arthur age 17, enlisted on the same day as Joseph. He did not go to the war but was promoted Corporal on 3 March 1902. He left the battalion on 27 October 1902.  Was he a younger brother?

[mack]

hiya denise.
if roberts correct about arthur being joes brother,then i think this soldier,was your great uncle

377503 arthur jervis
2/10th manchesters
enlisted beswick
son of joseph
married to alice
resided 20 pingstone st,beswick,manchester
killed in action,9th oct 1917
aged 37

was your gt grandfather joseph born in scotland,the above man[arthur] was scottish born.

mack
ps excellent work robert

[djervis]

Thank you all, you are indeed very knowledgable and kind people, your huge amount of information will take me a little while to digest. Regarding your questions, I will certainly get back to you but it may be a few days, my work keeps getting in the way.
Kind regards
Denise

[djervis]

Hello All,

I have looked at what you have suggested, regarding the other Ancestry records I have not discounted them, however none seem to fit at this stage. I have investigated Arthur as a possible relative, but have been unable to fit him in, all the info I have at the moment does not mention an Arthur, but on saying that I will not discount him. This  family seem to be a bit of a mystery and give me a bit of grief at times. All the information that you have freely given is much appreciated, no doubt I will have further questions to ask.

Kind regards
Denise

[djervis]

Hello all,

Can anyone please direct me or supply me with the email address of the themonsstar, as I am believe he/she (no offence intended) can conduct research on my behalf.

Kind regards
Denise

[Wendi]

Hi Denise !

You don't need his email addy as you can contact him via the personal messaging system on this forum 

Click on the "Members" tab at the top of the page, go to "T" and look for HIS  name (it's currently on page 44)  Click on his name which will bring up his profile.  At the bottom on the left hand side you will see a "Send personal message" option under Actions.  Click on that, and it will bring up a new page for you to drop him a note.

Hope that helps !

Wendi 

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Hi  Im doing some research on my ancestor and came across your post.  Our ancestors signed up on the same day 10th March 1900 at Ardwick Barracks.  They were in the 5th Volunteer Battalion, 2nd Service Company and are remember in a memorial at the barracks.  Copy attached.  My GG Father was Private 7145 John James Sellers.