Hello Everybody

[Applebygypsy]

Aloha . I feel I have been rather premature by asking questions first of the forum, and not letting you know who I am . My name is James Newton [Jim to my mates] and I am currently exploring the world of family geneology. I was in the service myself and belonged to the RE,s for 22 years finishing as a SSgt. Thoroughly enjoyed it. I was born in Crumpsall, Manchester on 9th Oct 1945, and lived there until enlisting on 6th Jul 1964. Came back after leaving in 1986 and lived in Bury, Tottington, Todmorden and at present Appleby-in-Westmorland. Hence the name Applebygypsy. I look forward to receiving information and reading on the forum about all things The Manchester Regiment. If I can be of any assistance to anyone on the Royal Engineers, or the geneology of local Mancunians, with surnames of Newton, Jackson and  Wilkinson please feel free to contact me through the forum.
Looking forward to a great deal of pleasure, and debate.
Applebygypsy 

[harribobs]

aloha?  it's more howdo round 'ere! 

welcome to the group Jim

[timberman]

Hi Jim

Welcome. My Grandma maiden name was Newton and came from Ardwick

Timberman

[tisgrannie]

Hi Jim and welcome, my grandmas name was Jackson and her family were from Ashton u lyne and about. Some of them ended up in Manchester.
tisgrannie
ps.
On genesreuntied last time I looked there was 29,000. listed.

[Applebygypsy]

Hi Timberman,
You say your grannie came from Ardwick and was called Newton. Strange but quite a few Newtons actually come from Timberland near Coningsby, Lincolnshire. Did you pick your own nickname? or is that spooky . Are you possibly related to that bloke who had apples falling on his head . The Ardwick and Ashton areas were also populated by Jacksons who ran quite a few pubs, The Edinburgh Castle being one, which was ran by 5041 Sgt Fred Jacksons dad. Give us the name of your grannie I might have her down.
regards
Applebygypsy

[Applebygypsy]

Hi Tisgrannie,
My mother was a Jackson and most of her family were from the Ashton, Moston and Ancoats area. As I said to Timberman 5041 Sgt Fred Jackson was the son of Joseph Jackson who ran the Edinburgh Castle in Ancoats. Quite a few others were also involved in running pubs. If you let me know grandmas name I might have some info for you.
Regards.
Applebygypsy

[timberman]

Hi Jim

I know timberland very well, Martin and Woodhall Spa as well
If I am related to the bloke that had the apple drop on his head I didn't inherit any of his brains.
He lived or was staying in Woolsthorpe near Grantham I think when it happened.
My Grandma's name was Florence Newton, her father was John Edward Newton and they lived at 62 Clarendon Road. This info is thanks to Tisgrannie.

Timberman

[Applebygypsy]

Hi Timberman,
You are fairly near the mark, but not quite on my family tree . My Grandfather James Betts Newton was Station Master at Crumpsall and three other stations. He died 1944 so I do not actually remember him . Originally from Donington, Lincs he moved with the L & Y to Bradford, then Halifax and finally Manchester. He actually lived at 57 Clarendon Road, Cheetham not far from Florrie as she was called at No 62. Her father John Edward Newton I hold no record of. I know Florrie was friends with my Grandfather and with Frank and Ida Pemberton who were also friends with my father James and mother Lillian. I remember her name coming up in conversations, as my side of the tree does not to my knowledge, have a Florence in it, either first or middle name. My other Grandfather Ernest Robert Jackson also worked on the Manchester-Bury line as a electric train guard. This is 4051 Sgt Fred Jacksons brother. This is how I am pretty certain is how my father and mother got together, through their fathers. Not much help I am afraid but leave it with me I will get back to you with something hopefully more definate .
Regards
Applebygypsy

[tisgrannie]

Hi Applebygypsy, My Jacksons - Grt Grt Granddad was firstly a Pork Butcher on Old St Ashton, then became a licensee of the (Brittania) on Old St will have to double check the name. He finally had the Theatre and Concert pub at the Corner of Katherine St where he died 1869, my Grt Grt Grandmother Elizabeth then ran it for quite a while. I think she finished in the 1880's. He is buried along with others of his family in Dukinfield Cemetery.
I have a fairly good record of his children at the time of this period. I researched who they married etc.
regards
tisgrannie

[paulkwilkinson]

How about these then?

Harold Wilkinson
Born Sep 1923 in Chorlton, Lancashire
Served in the Manchesters in WW2 in the 7th Manchesters, as part of the 52nd 'Mountain' division.
He was the driver of a Cardon-Lloyd Bren Gun Carrier we have photos of him with the vehicle, which following some more research does i ndeed have the 52nd's markings (62 in a black sq to the front right, crossed swords on a black sq to the left - we even have the vehicle number if that helps!).
We are unsure of his rank, but he is wearing the Fleur-de-Leys cap badge, 'Manchesters', 'Mountain' - (with shield) and some rank marking (unclear).
He was awarded the 1939-45 medal, the Defence medal, the France & Germany star and the Africa star. We have other medals but cannot be sure they belong to him.
Married Kathleen Rose Lovatt 12 Apr 1945
Died in March 1968 in Heald Place, Rusholme, Manchester

His father;
Harold Wilkinson (service number 162203?)
Born 27 Apr 1889  
We believe from communications with his wife he was based at Rue d'Egypt, Thimeon, Belgium (now part of Pont-a-Celles) in 1918-19.
His notes list him as Dr (Driver/Doctor?) Harold Wilkinson,162203,A.H.T.D (A.H.T.D - Advanced Horse Transport Depot?), M.G.C (Machine Gun Corps?), A Sub section, No.2 Section, BEF, France
Lived at some point at 25 Nelson Street, Ardwick, Manchester
Married Mary Ann Griffiths 22 Mar 1913
Died 30 May 1969 Manchester

And his grandfather;
Christopher Wilkinson
Born 7 Feb 1870  
Lived at some point in Deansgate, Manchester
Married Eliza Heywood 12 Apr 1945, Heywood, Manchester
Died 1946 Manchester

Anything you could reveal about these men would be very welcome. I never met my grandfather so now finding about who he was and his fathers before seems quite important.

Thanks

Paul Wilkinson

[paulkwilkinson]

I have just added some more very useful information following a recent search through family records.

I have amended the details above.

Please have a look.