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Offline harribobs

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regimental numbers
« on: July 10, 2008, 11:51:03 PM »
i saw this one the GWF and i thought b******t

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   Looks like a Territorial number which would have been appeared across several of the Battalions

eh? now i thought the regiment used 1-9999 across the complete regiment ( before the war) obviously they would get re-cycled as they came available ( :-\)
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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2008, 12:39:13 AM »
HI,
    take a look at the numbers for Manchester regiment 4161 it has seven owners, well maybe six before 251455 Richard Nelson is given a another number. The others with the same number some are re-numbered, transfer to other Regiments or keep the number (dont make it through?).
    I dont think the MIC are not as accurate as you might think. Five million cards with what sort of % error.
    Take a look at 4161-4169 Manchester regiment & 251455-251466 you can see what the re-numbering has done but still some soldiers share a number!
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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 09:40:02 PM »
territorial battalions service numbers

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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2008, 07:07:41 PM »
many people get confused about the territorial renumbering.
when it came into effect,only those serving in TF battalions were renumbered,territorials who had been posted to regular or service battalions at the time,still retained their 4 digit numbers.

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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2008, 09:50:11 PM »

indeed!

there is an article, complete with the blocks allocated to each battalion on the main site

http://www.themanchesters.org/re-numbering.htm
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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2008, 01:43:56 PM »
Is it possible to trace the date of allocation, or cross-reference a number to the four-figure TF one?
I am interested in 252240 [6th Battalion] Pte Hooley, J. and trying to find his date of attestation or enlistment.
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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2008, 05:44:14 PM »
hiya daggers.
these men,have service numbers,that are the closest i have,too pte hooleys.
pte 252375 charles,william arnold,24 wenlock st,hulme,enl aug 1916
pte 252349 george,william bailey,33 john st,hulme,enl aug 1916
pte 252351 william bruce,58 lingard st,hulme,enl aug 1916

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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2008, 09:30:15 PM »
Mack
Thank you for that help.  It sounds as though my man was not a territorial, and at 37 with two young children, may have been  'dragged in'.  Sadly he lasted only three months after reaching France in Feb 1917.
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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2008, 09:28:51 AM »
these men,have service numbers,that are the closest i have,too pte hooleys.

I can get slightly closer with a few names for you mack
Pte 252234 Joseph Matthew Maylor
Pte 225247 Joseph J Gleave later G/53606 Middlesex
Pte 252223 Joseph Gale
Pte 252267 Joseph E Cottrill later 615424 Labour Corps

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Pte 252239 Peter G Morrison later L/Cpl.
Pte 252241 James Rowbotton later 39913 Wiltshire Reg.

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Re: regimental numbers
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 06:28:12 PM »
Hi,
Is there any way I can find out when the regimental no 6, was issued to PTE Thomas George Oliver Humphrys, he was pre 1914 war.
Thanks Karen