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james wotherspoon

Started by babs, September 23, 2008, 06:03:18 PM

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harribobs

indeed i do

looks like a cavalry man to me

chris

"It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply
  to serve as a warning to others."

babs

Thanks Chris,
He does with those spurs!!!
Hope to get some help on this......

Babs


Fritz Bayer

To narrow it down even further ... with the helmet, ulanka tunic and sword, he's a member of a Lancer regiment.

Dave

Fritz Bayer

Quote from: Fritz Bayer on October 20, 2008, 10:31:23 AM
To narrow it down even further ... with the helmet, ulanka tunic and sword, he's a member of a Lancer regiment.

Dave

...Wotherspoon,J.,2973,Private,9th Lancers. 

Boer War medal entitlement...QSA with Johannesburg,Diamond Hill,Wittebergen,Cape Colony,1901 clasps.

Invalided to England. Discharged, Time expired.

Dave

babs

Dave,

I don't know what to say, Thanks so much for solving this mystery....
Everyones help and enthusiasm on this site has been great and it's very much appreciated.
Could you pm me with any reading material you may know of with reference to these campaigns and how I may get hold of copies of his service records??

As a civilian I'm not sure what the medal entitlement or clasps are??

Thanks once again from all the family
Babs

harribobs

Babs

this page will tell you what the clasps are for:-

http://www.themanchesters.org/QSA%20clasps.htm
chris
"It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply
  to serve as a warning to others."

Fritz Bayer

#21
For general reading materials try 'The Ninth Queen's Royal Lancers 1715-1936' by Major E.W. Sheppard, Aldershot, 1939

The medal entitlement is the Queens South Africa medal

Johannesburg was a "Battle clasp" awarded for partaking in the action of 31/05/1900

Diamond Hill was a "Battle clasp" awarded for partaking in the action of 11 - 12/06/1900

Wittebergen was a "Battle clasp" awarded for partaking in the action of 01 - 29/07/1900

Cape Colony was a "State clasp" awarded for being present in the area for a period of time between 11/10/1899 - 31/05/1902

South Africa 1901 was a "Date clasp" awarded to troops who were not eligible for the King's South Africa medal, although they had served at the front during 1901.

His service records are liikely to be held at the National Archives at Kew and are accessable to anyone with a "readers ticket"(unless they are on microfilm, then you don't need one). If you can't get to Kew, or don't wish to, then I think that (for quite a hefty fee) you can order document searches from the National Archives direct. Alternatively, there are a number of professional researchers out there ( ::) ) who could do it for you for less. Some specialise in the Boer War too!  Never used anyone myself (so don't ask me for a review!), but this is one that I can think of ... http://www.casus-belli.co.uk/index.asp?display=thumbs&category=Research+Services

Dave.

babs

Thanks for that, I've looked on the web and there's quite a bit of info the 9th Lancers. I don't know if it's worth joining the Nat Archive site??

Also I'm still puzzled at the Manchester Regt connection which got me here in the first place....unless it refers to his son also James and was also military...

Thanks
Babs

Wendi

 :-\

Quote from: babs on September 23, 2008, 06:03:18 PMI have a picture of my great grandfather (1870 - 1917) in uniform on the back is written his name and Manchester Regiment. It looks to be late 1800 early 1900. He does not appear on the census of 1891 and 1901, so I assume he was military then.

Perhaps a family member wrote on the back of the photo after he died ???

Babs,

The National Archives is a resource, you don't join, it's just that you have to obtain the information held in their archives, and unless you visit personally you have to either employ a researcher, or rely on their scanned materials.

Wendi  :)
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it!  No matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

babs

Thanks for that also Wendi