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#71
Applications for Commemoration / Re: Pte 141 William,joseph Too...
Last post by Tim Bell - January 31, 2025, 08:14:45 PMWilliam Toole's case has been rejected for commemoration.
#72
1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/7 Manchesters Gallipoli
Last post by Tim Bell - January 30, 2025, 07:34:44 PMHi Ian,
It's interesting to see a known burial, albeit the plot isn't identified. Have you checked the other 7th Bn CWGC casualties on this day. If there are only 3 on Gallipoli that day, your assessment makes a lot of sense. Have you checked the War Diary-accepting this may be where you gleaned your information?
Welcome to the forum. Hopefully a Territorial expert may be able to add something.
Tim
It's interesting to see a known burial, albeit the plot isn't identified. Have you checked the other 7th Bn CWGC casualties on this day. If there are only 3 on Gallipoli that day, your assessment makes a lot of sense. Have you checked the War Diary-accepting this may be where you gleaned your information?
Welcome to the forum. Hopefully a Territorial expert may be able to add something.
Tim
#73
1914 - 1918 / 1/7 Manchesters Gallipoli
Last post by Ian - January 27, 2025, 09:46:44 AMHi,
My great Uncle A H Boardman (2018)
was killed in action on 19/09/1915.
Same month a Turkish mine was detonated under the trench's occupied by the battalion. He wasn't involved with this however days later a trench mortar fired from another trench position fell short(?)and killed 3 and wounded 4. I think this was how my uncle died. Capt. Smedley was injured in this incident.
Please can somebody enlighten me with more information ie.which trench were the battalion occupying at the time and which regiment let loose the trench mortar causing blue on blue. I would be most grateful.
My great Uncle A H Boardman (2018)
was killed in action on 19/09/1915.
Same month a Turkish mine was detonated under the trench's occupied by the battalion. He wasn't involved with this however days later a trench mortar fired from another trench position fell short(?)and killed 3 and wounded 4. I think this was how my uncle died. Capt. Smedley was injured in this incident.
Please can somebody enlighten me with more information ie.which trench were the battalion occupying at the time and which regiment let loose the trench mortar causing blue on blue. I would be most grateful.
#74
Hello / 23535678
Last post by Trevor Sheldrake - January 26, 2025, 10:32:59 PMHello and thanks for having me.
I played with the 8th Ardwick TA band from the age of about 12 - my dad was also in the band. When I was 15, in 1956, they encouraged me to join as a 'boy' because I got paid for rehearsals and concerts (army number in title). I joined the regular army when I was 17 (Royal Signals Staff Band) where I stayed for 9 years before returning to civvy street. I have been a freelance professional musician ever since but also had a 'proper' job, retiring as an Osted inspector of colleges and education consultant.
I played with the 8th Ardwick TA band from the age of about 12 - my dad was also in the band. When I was 15, in 1956, they encouraged me to join as a 'boy' because I got paid for rehearsals and concerts (army number in title). I joined the regular army when I was 17 (Royal Signals Staff Band) where I stayed for 9 years before returning to civvy street. I have been a freelance professional musician ever since but also had a 'proper' job, retiring as an Osted inspector of colleges and education consultant.
#75
Newly Commemorated Men (CWGC) / Re: Pte 1492 William Burton Jo...
Last post by Tim Bell - January 12, 2025, 04:55:47 PMWilliam Johnson's burial has been accepted at Wallasey (Rake Lane) Cemetery.
#76
Newly Commemorated Men (CWGC) / Re: Pte 2019 Edward Bostock
Last post by Tim Bell - January 12, 2025, 07:54:40 AMEdward Bostock's burial has been adopted at Moston
#77
Newly Commemorated Men (CWGC) / Re: Pte 22082 Francis Alfred P...
Last post by Tim Bell - January 12, 2025, 07:51:47 AMFrances Patchett's burial has been adopted at Moston.
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/75469992/francis-alfred-patchett/
https://www.cwgc.org/find-records/find-war-dead/casualty-details/75469992/francis-alfred-patchett/
#78
1914 - 1918 / Re: 9th Manchester Volunteers ...
Last post by Tim Bell - January 06, 2025, 07:35:55 PMHi Quo,
I take your point. The men in the photo are quite old too and I doubt John could've looked this old before 1914. I just wonder if he had home service with the Manchesters after the Loyals and before the RFC. The 23xxx sequence were issued in mid 1916, so it's possible he was wounded / sick in France, posted home an then transferred to a service Bn. The other older men in the image would fit with Derby Scheme recruits in mid 1916. Guess work, maybe.
Tim
I take your point. The men in the photo are quite old too and I doubt John could've looked this old before 1914. I just wonder if he had home service with the Manchesters after the Loyals and before the RFC. The 23xxx sequence were issued in mid 1916, so it's possible he was wounded / sick in France, posted home an then transferred to a service Bn. The other older men in the image would fit with Derby Scheme recruits in mid 1916. Guess work, maybe.
Tim
#79
1914 - 1918 / Re: 9th Manchester Volunteers ...
Last post by quovandius - January 05, 2025, 09:25:49 AMMany thanks for your reply Tim. Thanks for confirming what I already thinking about John's pre war service in the Manchesters.
In regards to his WW1 service, if he did originally enlist in the Loyals and not the Manchesters, there is still the question of the random 23401 no. On his pension card. The photo we have of him I think shows a Manchesters cap badge and the "utility" service dress which was issued late 1914 onwards from what I've seen but I'm happy to be corrected on this as WW2 is more my area of expertise and maybe it is a prewar photo? Not disagreeing with your input but just trying to make sense of everything!
Cheers
In regards to his WW1 service, if he did originally enlist in the Loyals and not the Manchesters, there is still the question of the random 23401 no. On his pension card. The photo we have of him I think shows a Manchesters cap badge and the "utility" service dress which was issued late 1914 onwards from what I've seen but I'm happy to be corrected on this as WW2 is more my area of expertise and maybe it is a prewar photo? Not disagreeing with your input but just trying to make sense of everything!
Cheers
#80
1914 - 1918 / Re: 9th Manchester Volunteers ...
Last post by Tim Bell - January 05, 2025, 07:59:40 AM Hi Quo,
Welcome to the Forum. You're our first new member for quite a while - we had a problem with hacking.
I think the reference to 9th Volunteer Bn refers to pre-War service. 9th (Territorial) Bn was based in Ashton (near John's home in Denton) and was previously 3rd Volunteer Bn until 1908.
If John went overseas with the Loyals on 29/06/1915, it is pressing logic that he had enlisted with them on 20/01/1915. Transfers in the infantry were common in 1916 onwards but less so in 1914/15.
Cheers
Tim
Welcome to the Forum. You're our first new member for quite a while - we had a problem with hacking.
I think the reference to 9th Volunteer Bn refers to pre-War service. 9th (Territorial) Bn was based in Ashton (near John's home in Denton) and was previously 3rd Volunteer Bn until 1908.
If John went overseas with the Loyals on 29/06/1915, it is pressing logic that he had enlisted with them on 20/01/1915. Transfers in the infantry were common in 1916 onwards but less so in 1914/15.
Cheers
Tim