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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by DaveMurphy on September 01, 2021, 05:39:28 AM »

hiya dave
ive corrected proffits details dont know how that happened
elsworth,horace was his correct name
no other info about pte joseph cox

ive also updated the MIDs awards,and added another 3 names

mack

Thanks Mack,

I have added the extra MIDs. Are there any more that you know of?

Cheers,

Dave
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by DaveMurphy on August 31, 2021, 11:28:05 PM »
Dave
Although 89th Bde did come under command of IX Corps for a few days in April 1918, 90th Bde and 30th Division as a whole never did. The highest formation that had a „stable“ OrBat was the division. Corps were alloctated Divisions as operational needs required. A quick look through the Order of Battle Part 4 of the British official history reveals that 30th Division served under at least four different Corps.

Charlie

Great info thanks Charlie. That will be helpful in deciphering things.

Cheers,

Dave
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by DaveMurphy on August 31, 2021, 11:26:20 PM »
hiya dave
with regards to 1X corps,i never understood why they were always mentioned,30th division or any of its brigades were ever with IX corps nor did this corps fight in the same areas as the 30th division

mack

Thanks Mack,

I'll work through the diary to get a more accurate location to place the awards better. Should be able to get it reasonably close.

Cheers,

Dave
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by charlie on August 31, 2021, 01:15:20 PM »
Dave
Although 89th Bde did come under command of IX Corps for a few days in April 1918, 90th Bde and 30th Division as a whole never did. The highest formation that had a „stable“ OrBat was the division. Corps were alloctated Divisions as operational needs required. A quick look through the Order of Battle Part 4 of the British official history reveals that 30th Division served under at least four different Corps.

Charlie
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by mack on August 31, 2021, 12:03:47 PM »
hiya dave
with regards to 1X corps,i never understood why they were always mentioned,30th division or any of its brigades were ever with IX corps nor did this corps fight in the same areas as the 30th division

mack
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by mack on August 31, 2021, 11:40:39 AM »
Team,

I have now added all the info from the Honours thread for the 16th to the map. For the MIDs, I placed them at Haig's GHQ.

I have a few questions though:
- Cpl Proffitt has address listed as 31 Milton Rd, Merton Pit. This doesn't come upon in Manchester. Could it be London?
- A/Cpl Elsworth's 7345 first name. Mack has it as Horace, but initial is A from other sources.
- Joseph Cox 43040 any further details?
- Is there a particular location for 'IX Corps' as listed in the 16/17/18 book? Or was is all pretty mobile at this point?

Cheers,

Dave


hiya dave
ive corrected proffits details dont know how that happened
elsworth,horace was his correct name
no other info about pte joseph cox

ive also updated the MIDs awards,and added another 3 names

mack
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by DaveMurphy on August 31, 2021, 08:45:44 AM »
Team,

I have now added all the info from the Honours thread for the 16th to the map. For the MIDs, I placed them at Haig's GHQ.

I have a few questions though:
- Cpl Proffitt has address listed as 31 Milton Rd, Merton Pit. This doesn't come upon in Manchester. Could it be London?
- A/Cpl Elsworth's 7345 first name. Mack has it as Horace, but initial is A from other sources.
- Joseph Cox 43040 any further details?
- Is there a particular location for 'IX Corps' as listed in the 16/17/18 book? Or was is all pretty mobile at this point?

Cheers,

Dave

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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by DaveMurphy on August 31, 2021, 08:30:35 AM »
Dave
The addresses in the PoW database are a mixture, some are those given at capture to the Germans/Red Cross and some are from Mack‘s (and others) research. In the case of Capt. Heywood it is the address he gave on his capture.
I am presuming Orleigh Park is the area he lived in and that he didn‘t live in the park itself  :)

https://mapcarta.com/16654036
Charlie

Looks like it was a large property, long since swallowed up by urbanisation.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/214306734
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by DaveMurphy on August 31, 2021, 08:23:06 AM »
hiya dave
captain philip heywood was from australia,he was in command of C.coy on 21st march 1918,known affectionately as australia joe by his men

mack

Thanks Mack, he should be an easy one to fix. Dandenong though is a town/suburb of greater Melbourne. The property listed might be hard to find, but I can give a general area.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 16th Bn - Google My Maps
« Last post by mack on August 31, 2021, 07:52:42 AM »
dave
charlie is correct about captain heywoods address at orleigh park,it was where the family home was

when captain heywood returned to australia after the war he was suffering with poor healthy,he had been gassed in 1917 and wrote to his father from queen alexandra military hospital in may 1917,his doctor advised that captain heywood needed to move to a healthier climate so his father bought hawksview on the riverina highway about 10km east of albury,he lived there until his death on 26-4-1971[born 8-3-1895 melbourne]his father owned racing stables at kanowna,ascot vale,epsom road
he was educated at melbourne grammar school and when he left he went to england and joined the british army

captain philip,harriman heywood

mack
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