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Non Commissioned Graves / Re: 51856 james carter
« Last post by PaulC on Today at 01:26:33 AM »
Probably a public grave with no headstone, plot not identified but buried close to Thomas Bispham.
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Non Commissioned Graves / Re: Lt Ernest Herod Wheatley - 8th Bttn
« Last post by PaulC on Today at 01:17:35 AM »
Buried at Marlpool Cemetery, grave ref H/212

Headstone transcription on FamilySearch: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJN-JYGP?i=114&cat=509752
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/5th battalion incident
« Last post by mack on October 23, 2021, 03:11:35 PM »
he enlisted on 14-9-14
left england 3-8-15
arrived at gallipoli 22-8-15
posted to D.coy machine gun section 19-2-16
attatched to 127th brigade machine gun coy 19-3-16
discharged in order to re-enlist in the MGC
embarked for france 1-3-17

mack
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/5th battalion incident
« Last post by Gingerfreak on October 23, 2021, 02:11:42 PM »
Another mistake I made, your right, he wasn't killed, he was reported 'Wounded' not killed. His service number for the MGC is 49569. All of the territorial men listed in the 15 roll of the MGC have a disenbarkation date as the 05/11/1914 arriving at (3) Egypt. In the Manchester 15 Roll the date 29th Sept 1914 has been changed to 6th May 1915 -  (2b) Gallipoli. I'm presuming he was a draft that left England and arrived before the unit landed in the Dardanelles. Once I've found all those posted out of the unit, the next step is to calculate the dates they enlisted.

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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/5th battalion incident
« Last post by mack on October 23, 2021, 01:37:26 PM »
hiya ginge
its a case of paper talk again

2460 william,james worsley[A.coy]
4 baymans cottages,newtown
case maker at swifts foundry
sent to nazariah school hospital,cairo on 28-10-1915 after suffering a asthma attack and a bout of fever,arriving 2-11-15,after he recovered,he was posted as a hospital orderly on 23-11-15 to the 19th gen hospital,alexander
he was discharged in 1916 and re-enlisted in the MGC and happily survived the war

mack
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/5th battalion incident
« Last post by Gingerfreak on October 23, 2021, 12:13:04 PM »
My mistake, error - 25th November 1914 not 1915. I haven't delved into the practicalities of the explosion. I agree that the air would be acrid and filled with poisons. Pte William James Worsley was reportedly killed through 'Gas Poisoning' on 15th Dec 1915 in a similar incident.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/5th battalion incident
« Last post by mack on October 22, 2021, 12:42:15 PM »
Both Grimes and Dennis arrived in the 3rd Draft or replacements in August 1915. Grimes enlisted on 25th November 1915. Dennis' service number is near to that of Grimes. Therefore its safe to assume he enlisted four weeks either side of Grimes' enlistment date. On the date of the explosion, Grimes and Dennis were buried. They used a penknife that belonged to Grimes and took three days to dig themselves out. Dennis wrote an account and its in the Observor (date above).

Grimes also wrote an account - His Croix De Guerre award is in the Wigan Obsever dated 4th December 1915, his account is in the Wigan Observer dated 4th March 1916.
Grimes was taken to hospital for shock. Grimes nickname was "Belle".

He was posted to the 25th Battalion Royal Fusiliers. This was an eclectic bunch of men. They all hailed from various backgrounds and the unit were used as Frontiersmen in the African Theatre. This unit is the basis for characters such as Alen Quartermaine and Indiana Jones. Arriving at this type of unit would have been eye opening for a Collier from Hindley, pit ponies are very different from horses.

I have more information on the men but I don't think its relevant to this post,

do you mean he enlisted on 25th november 1914 not 1915

how did they manage to breathe after being buried for three days,their air would have run out and it would have been polluted by the blast anyway

mack
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1914 - 1918 / Re: 1/5th battalion incident
« Last post by Gingerfreak on October 22, 2021, 11:23:49 AM »
Both Grimes and Dennis arrived in the 3rd Draft or replacements in August 1915. Grimes enlisted on 25th November 1915. Dennis' service number is near to that of Grimes. Therefore its safe to assume he enlisted four weeks either side of Grimes' enlistment date. On the date of the explosion, Grimes and Dennis were buried. They used a penknife that belonged to Grimes and took three days to dig themselves out. Dennis wrote an account and its in the Observor (date above).

Grimes also wrote an account - His Croix De Guerre award is in the Wigan Obsever dated 4th December 1915, his account is in the Wigan Observer dated 4th March 1916.
Grimes was taken to hospital for shock. Grimes nickname was "Belle".

He was posted to the 25th Battalion Royal Fusiliers. This was an eclectic bunch of men. They all hailed from various backgrounds and the unit were used as Frontiersmen in the African Theatre. This unit is the basis for characters such as Alen Quartermaine and Indiana Jones. Arriving at this type of unit would have been eye opening for a Collier from Hindley, pit ponies are very different from horses.

I have more information on the men but I don't think its relevant to this post,
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1914 - 1918 / Re: Private 202962 Alan Knight, 2/10th Manchesters
« Last post by Gingerfreak on October 22, 2021, 09:58:24 AM »
That's one piece of amazing artwork. A lot of creativity and thought went into it, not just the portrait, but the Belgium flag, the figures etc. Hats off to the artist. it should be given the credit it rightly deserves.
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1914 - 1918 / Re: Private 202962 Alan Knight, 2/10th Manchesters
« Last post by Pete Th on October 22, 2021, 09:45:56 AM »
mack, I thought you’d appreciate it  :)
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