The Manchester Regiment Forum
The Boer War => 1899 - 1902 => Topic started by: joseph on May 04, 2008, 12:13:28 AM
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hi all,i wonder if someone can help me,im trying to find anything i can about a soldier who served in the boer war,cpl f mackey manchester regt.he was awarded the qsa and ksa and later on he gained the lsgc medal as a sjt.iv looked at the mic for ww1 but it would seem he didnt serve in that one.regards to you all.bullybeef.
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Hi Joseph
And welcome to the site.
Franeis got his LSGC in 1913, his Army No was 5756. I will have a look for his other medal for you. Cheers MS
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He was in the 2nd Battalion Manch Regt. The QSA medal has the bars Wittebrgen, Cape Colony & Transvaal. with the bars 1901 & 1902 on the KSA Medal
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hi there,thanks for the information.on 5756 CPl/SJt.FRANCIS MACKEY 2ND Bn MANCHESTER REGt.queens south africa medal,with clasps, cape colony,transvaal,wittenbergen.kings south africa medal with clasps,south africa 1901,south africa 1902.and the long service and good conduct medal,awarded 1913.thanks again.joe.
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His service records are on Ancestry, he joined the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders first then moved over to the Manchester Regt in 1899.
If you donot have a copy pm me with your e-mail address and I will send them to you.
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hi monstar,thanks for your help with the research on 7556 cpl/sjt francis mackey,2/manchester regt.yes i would most grateful if you would send me a copy of his records that you have. and again thanks.joe. p.s.if anyone out there would like to know about a soldier from accrington who served in the scottish rifles,pte walter greenhalgh .sottish rifles 1890-1901.served in the boer war.
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hi again,iv found him,as you said on ancestry,there is quite a lot about him.well done monstar and thanks for your help,its a D S O for you.regards joe.
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nice work roy.
mack
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Incredible that we are looking for the same information around the same time. Francis Mackey was my Great Grandfather and I have recently been collecting information from ancestry.com and other sources. Right now I am trying to determine how he may have met my Great Grandmother.
Did the Manchester Regiment stop in the Channel Islands (Alderney) after the Boer War before returning to England or at any other time between 1900 - 1906?
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spookey!
Welcome to the group Mackey, do you know Joseph?
regarding your query, i seem to remember that they were posted to the channel islands, i will check tonight if no one confirms it
chris
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The 2nd Battalion returned to England from SA at the end of September 1902 and were quartered at Aldershot until leaving for the Channel Islands at the end of 1904. They were then based in Guernsey and Alderney.
They were joined in November 1906 by the residue of the 3rd and 4th Battalions, who were absorbed into the 2nd Battalion. The 2nd Battalion stayed in the Channel Islands until October 1907.
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I've sent Joseph an email, we may very well be! Thank you so much for that info, that solves the mystery.
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Well done all concerned!!! This is a really good search. I love when they come together and lots come out of it. Hope you are related chaps. Well done all!!!!!!!
tisgrannie
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hi all,well contact has been made between cpl/sjt francis mackey`s g/grandson and myself,it turns out that we are not related but it looks like the qsa,ksa and lsgc medals may well be back with the mackey family after being lost to them for years.it could have been forever.joe.
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If it weren't for this website and Joseph's kindness it probably would have been forever. The medals will be on their way shortly, and I can't wait to receive them. A big thank you to Joseph for letting them go from his collection, I am in your debt!
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hehe
this sorts of makes all the hard work all worth while!! ;D ;D
really well done to all the grafters on the thread, tea and custard creams all round!!
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I've recently discovered another medal of his in the family with an inscription that reads "Signaller, 1927, Dr. J. Mackey" would anyone happen to know what the Dr stands for? He was a bandsman while with the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders but I believe he was a cook with the Manchester Regiment. He retired from the service in 1914 which makes it all the more interesting as this medal is dated 13 years later. So if anyone could shed some light on what this medal might be, it would be much appreciated!
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i'm guessing here, but if he was a bandsman, i would have thought drummer ???
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That's what I had suspected as well, but the only instrument that he played that I have evidence of is the clarinet but it wouldn't be unheard of for a musician to play more than one instrument! Could you be a bandsman with the Manchester regiment even after you've retired from the service?
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Could you be a bandsman with the Manchester regiment even after you've retired from the service?
i wouldn't have thought so...
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I wonder if he could have joined the Militia a Volunteers Battalion or the TA ?
Wendi :)
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I really haven't given you much to go on. I'll know more once I can get some pictures of the medal and find out what it was for. Thank you for the replies!
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WHOA - this is a huge co-incidence. I live in Alderney and am helping a friend research his great grandfather who married an Alderney girl. I just received the marriage certificate for them, and it turns out that he was in the 2 Manchester Regt (hence my coming to this site in the first place). The photocopy of the marriage certificate has a second marriage on it - between a Francis Mackey Sergeant Manchester Regiment and a Louisa Simon. Further co-incidence is that both men married girls from the Simon family (although they had different fathers so probably cousins rather than sisters)
If this is any help to either of you Mackey researchers feel free to get in touch.
Also - can anyone point me in the right direction to find out any more about my friends G - grand father
Sorry - was so excited by the co-incidence that I forgot to say hi :)
hoggie
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I will most definitely be getting in touch with you!
I had just come back to post what I had found out about the "Medallion"!
It was in fact issued to my Grandfather, and not my Great Grandfather. It was not known to the family that my Grandfather had been with the Territorial Artillery prior to joining the RAF. Because they moved back to the Manchester area it was assumed that it had belonged to my Great Grandfather who had been with the Manchester Regiment. This is not the case. The medallion is actually a prize medal issued at field competitions at the Territorial Camps. This was issued to my Grandfather (the Dr. is Driver in the artillery circles) and was awarded for his prowess in Signalling.
Thank you all!
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this thread seems to attracting people!! ;D
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Just joined this site today and found this thread whilst looking for info on my own family.
What a great story these posts tell and such a positive outcome.
Was a pleasure to read it all through to its conclusion :)
Thanks for sharing.
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Hi Tabbitha and Welcome ;D
Thanks for your kind words, we are glad you enjoyed !
Wendi :)
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i said this thread was attractive ;D
here is something else for MackeyM, go to this thread and have a look what Brad has posted
i think you might recognise a name there
http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=1431.0 (http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=1431.0)
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Thank you so much!
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I had considered starting a new thread seeing as the last time I posted was quite some time ago. However, I think in this case it is worthwhile tacking on the existing thread.
In previous posts in this thread it identifies QSA, KSA and LSGC for Sjt Francis Mackey 2nd Bn Manchester Regiment, which I was very fortunate to acquire completely through a chance reading of this forum. (Thank You themanchesters.org!). What is not mentioned is his first medal, an India General Service Medal with Punjab Frontier Bar 1897-98 (which he received while with the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders). This one was still missing. For the following year between June 2008 and June 2009 I set up ebay email notifications for any sales with "India General Service Medal" in the description. Although I received many many emails in that year, I was not successful in finding his medal. In June of 2009 I happened to do a google search and ended up downloading a catalogue of medals for sale from a shop in Bury, Uk and sure enough there it was, a new item as of May 2009.
Needless to say, all four of Sjt Francis Mackey's medals have been reunited. I also took a trip last summer to Alderney, Channel Islands and took some pictures from outside Fort Albert where the 2nd Bn Manchester Regiment was stationed in the early 1900's. It is in fair shape considering the age of the fort. I would be happy to post some images.
So for those of you looking to find your ancestor's medals, keep hunting!
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i agree with mackey,keep on looking,this thread is an example of never giving up hope
mackey.
we would love to see the pictures that you took.
mack ;D
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Well done for staying with your research & geting all the medals back.
Roy
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Hi Joseph !
I'm really chuffed at the result you achieved !
Thanks for keeping in touch and letting us know the events as they took place.
Wendi :)
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Evening All
What a great success story, long lost medals being returned to the family, unbelievable the recipient must be over the moon. I've been looking for my granddad and great granddads medals for some time without luck, I can imagine how the Mackey family feel now.
Roy I must get in touch with you regarding the help you gave me last time, I owe you a donation, if you could send me your address in a PM I will sort it out?
Well done all, look forward to hearing from you Roy.
Kind Regards
Benny