40757 L Cpl Albert Edward Barton

[philipbarton]

I am looking for more information about my great uncle.  His obituary reads: "Barton, Albert Edward, cadet 22nd Manchester Regiment.  Drowned at Hoylake 14 June 1917 while a cadet waiting to be gazetted as an officer.  Age 20.  Served in France".  He is not the same soldier who was born in Manchester, about whom several postings have already been made.

He is buried in Holy Trinity churchyard, Trinity Road, Hoylake, Wirral.  There is a family memorial which has rather been supplanted by a new regimental gravestone.  I am unaware of any closer relatives than myself, so I would be very interested to find out who was consulted about the erection of this new memorial.  The grave was clearly tended on Remembrance Sunday, so someone must know something!

Please get in touch if you have any information about this soldier.  Thank you very much.


Philip Barton

[harribobs]

Hi Philip

and welcome to the forum

I will move this over to the great war section and we will see if we can find out anything about him

chris

[mack]

hiya phil.
when L/cpl barton died,his family would have been asked if they wanted a CWGC headstone,someone at the time,gave their permission because hes listed in the original CWGC register as having a war grave,he then comes under the care of the CWGC and they are responsible for the care+maintainance of his grave,his original headstone may have been damaged or weathered and needed replacing,they would also tidy his grave after they erected a new stone.
if you contact the CWGC,they will tell you when the headstone was replaced.

with regards to permission,only those family members who agreed to his original headstone,can be consulted,if they are no longer living,then the CWGC go ahead and replace it

mack

[mack]

L/cpl barton was originally pte 2881 a.e barton,cheshire regt
drowned while swimming in the sea at hoylake on 14-6-17
resided at 33 groveland ave,hoylake
left £162.8s.2d in his will,to police sergeant charles,herbert emsley

sgt emsley died on 25-9-1933
wife mary,ann
2 kempton rd,new ferry,cheshire
children,edith,mary and herbert,sydney

mack

[philipbarton]

Mack

Thanks for this information.  The original memorial stone is still in place and in pretty good condition, which is what prompted my inquiry.  Having one stone placed directly in front of another looks quite odd.  I will contact CWGC to ask if the two headstones could be more sympathetically arranged.

[timberman]

Don't know if this will help.

United Kingdom Area
Commonwealth War Graves Commission
Jenton Road, Sydenham
Leamington Spa
Warwickshire CV31 1XS

United Kingdom
Tel: +44 (0) 1926 330137
Fax: +44 (0) 1926 339757
E-mail: [email protected]

Timberman

[philipbarton]

Timberman

Many thanks.  Very useful.


Kind Regards
Philip Barton