The Manchester Regiment Forum
The Great War => 1914 - 1918 => Topic started by: topcat68 on January 14, 2008, 12:51:49 PM
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Would it be possible for some advice in trying to find out which Btn the above served in?.I have looked through some of the archives in Ashton Library to no avail :-[
Your expertise would be most welcome.
By the way the above named person is my wife's Great Grandad who survived the war,we have his medals here at home and I would like to do some detailed research on him if at all possible,but I don't know how to go about finding which Battalion he served with.
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Hi TC
and welcome to the group
i think the first thing to do is to download his medal index card, it is available here and will cost you £3.50 :-
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=1769480&queryType=1&resultcount=1 (http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/details-result.asp?Edoc_Id=1769480&queryType=1&resultcount=1)
we should be able to ascertain his battalion from that and hopefully get some more information
cheers
chris
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Cheers Chris,will do that and come back with the results,many thanks for your time.
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no problem! ;)
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Right mate managed to download the MIC,very few details to be honest it states that he is entitled to the,BWM,VM AND 1915 STAR,it also says that the theatre of war first served in is 1 2 H ??? and the date of entry into that theatre is 5.5.15.
It doesn't mention which Battalion he served in though,would any members be able to shed any light given the details above?.Mnay thanks in advance.Julian
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we need to see the index card, as we need the roll details from it
can you attach a copy of of it or email it to me please
ta chris
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we need to see the index card, as we need the roll details from it
can you attach a copy of of it or email it to me please
ta chris
yeah, not too au fait with the process of attaching,any chance you can run through it for me?
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sent you a message with my email address ;)
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btw my guess....
9th battalion
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btw my guess....
9th battalion
Yes could be,is there any way of finding out for sure though?
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sorry Julian, that was my guess before i saw the card ;D
here it is
(http://harribobs.smugmug.com/photos/243711818-M.jpg)
with that number, he is either a regular or a territorial, looking at the date of entry, he's a territorial
the theatre of war 12H is actually 2b in brackets, gallipoli
according to my records the only battalion to arrive at gallipoli actually on the 5/5/15 was the 9th battalion (hence my guess) but they all arrived around that time. we now have to check the medal rolls to be certain, so you'll have to bear with us for the moment
chris
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That is great,thanks once again for your time. :)
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hiya TC.
do you know which area he lived in during ww1.
mack
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hiya TC.
do you know which area he lived in during ww1.
mack
Hiya Mack,pretty sure he lived in Lees(Oldham)
He was my wife's Great Grandad on her Grandma's side.
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hiya TC.
i think chris is right,hes a territorial.
all the terriers were renumbered in 1917,with a six digit number,harry hasnt got one,which suggests he was invalided out of the army as medically unfit before 1917.
these ackroyds are the only servicemen listed in oldham[c1918]
ernest.56 herbert st,waterhead.
john.13 gartside st,clarksfield.
joseph.18 morley st,waterhead.
thomas.54 norbury st.clarksfield.
mack
ps,he was probably in the 1/10[oldham]battalion.
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Hmmm,cheers for that Mack,I will have to interrogate the wife when she gets home from work.
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found him.
harry was evacuated from gallipoli wounded[no date given] he was in the 1/10th battalion.
mack
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found him.
harry was evacuated from gallipoli wounded[no date given] he was in the 1/10th battalion.
mack
Excellent Mack,how did you manage to find him?
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he is in the list of evacuated men in 'amateur soldiers' (K W Mitchinson) the history of the 10th battalion ;)
there is a potted history of the 10th battalion on the main site you may be interested in
http://www.themanchesters.org/10th%20batt.htm (http://www.themanchesters.org/10th%20batt.htm)
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he is in the list of evacuated men in 'amateur soldiers' (K W Mitchinson) the history of the 10th battalion ;)
there is a potted history of the 10th battalion on the main site you may be interested in
http://www.themanchesters.org/10th%20batt.htm (http://www.themanchesters.org/10th%20batt.htm)
I have been trying to get hold of a copy of this book but no joy,I have looked on the internet,I have even asked the original publishers who said it was now out of print,I know the local library has a copy but I want a copy to keep,any suggestions?
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I would be interested in one too. Could we do anything about a reprint or copies? Anyone have any ideas?
tisgrannie
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If you go to www.jadepublishing.com Amateur soldiers, by k w mitchinson, a history of oldhams volunteers and territorials 1859-1938. price £16.95 code 0-9518098-9-x, it's says it's being re-published.
Hope this helps. Also www.oldham.gov.uk have it listed and they do sell books this may be a longshot.
Timberman
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Just foot note to the other post. when you get to jade publishing click on detailed archive list here.
timberman
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If you go to www.jadepublishing.com Amateur soldiers, by k w mitchinson, a history of oldhams volunteers and territorials 1859-1938. price £16.95 code 0-9518098-9-x, it's says it's being re-published.
Hope this helps. Also www.oldham.gov.uk have it listed and they do sell books this may be a longshot.
Timberman
Tried that mate,got an email from them saying "out of print". Thanks anyway.
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have you tried the museum? they used to have copies at portland basin 0161 343 2878
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have you tried the museum? they used to have copies at portland basin 0161 343 2878
Cheers for that mate I will give them a shout.
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pte 2034 harry ackroyd
1/10th manchesters
enlisted 19-8-14 at oldham,aged 26
10-9-14 to egypt
17-7-15 returned to england slightly wounded
17-5-16,discharged on termination of engagement,para XXI,KR
resided 117 honeywell lane,oldham
married miss lily burslem at christ church,glodwick,17-6-1910
daughter florence,born 18-12-1910
his best man was lilys brother, seth
mack
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pte 2034 harry ackroyd
1/10th manchesters
enlisted 19-8-14 at oldham,aged 26
10-9-14 to egypt
17-7-15 returned to england slightly wounded
17-5-16,discharged on termination of engagement,para XXI,KR
resided 117 honeywell lane,oldham
married miss lily burslem at christ church,glodwick,17-6-1910
daughter florence,born 18-12-1910
his best man was lilys brother, seth
mack
That is superb,if you don't mind me asking where did you manage to get all the info from?
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ime a two legged database TC ;D ;D ;D
mack
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Hiya... Harry Ackroyd was my great grandfather TOO!! Are you Lyndas husband Phil? I have Harrys membership card from the Oldham Sailors & Soldiers Club showing the address 117 Honeywell Lane. I already have the copy of the medal roll and I have a picture of him with his comrades which I guess from reading all the previous info here that it was taken at Gallipoli.I have all the info on Lilly Burslem too from researching the Addison family history.What a find!
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also just to add a bit of info... Seth Broadbent who witnessed Lilly & Harrys marriage was Lillys half brother (her mother Caroline had been married before and was a widow with children when she married Lillys father John William Burslem) Harry & Lillys daughter Florence (my maternal grandmother) was born on 8.12 1910 not 18th.
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according to my records the only battalion to arrive at gallipoli actually on the 5/5/15 was the 9th battalion (hence my guess) but they all arrived around that time. we now have to check the medal rolls to be certain, so you'll have to bear with us for the moment
chris
I have a MIC that also has Theatre of War 2B & Date of entry 5/5/15 - & he was with the 1/6th. :o
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the membership card I have shows him as belonging to the 1/10 manchester regiment. I seem to remember a family story that he was "gassed" in the war?? Is it possible to confirm that in any way? Thanks Jenny