200036 C/Sgt (CQMS) Francis Morgan Taylor

[GT]

Hello everyone, I am new to the forum.

I am researching my grandfather, 200036 C/Sgt (CQMS) Francis Morgan Taylor 'B' Coy 1/5 Manchesters. I know quite a bit about his service as I have one of his paybooks in my possession. It covers the period Oct 1915 to Sept 1917 so luckily covers Egypt, the Dardanelles and the Western Front.

The first entry is 4 Oct 1915 where he was paid £1.10s at Mustapha, on 14 May 1917 he was paid 300 Francs in the Field in France and given 1 months leave in the UK. On 6 June 1917 he was paid £5
re-engagement bounty at Depot Wigan.

I would like to know more about the Manchesters and the campaigns he fought in, where is the best place to start and is the Manchesters Museum worth a visit.

Cheers

GT

[timberman]

Hi GT

Welcome to the forum

As Dave said I'm sure someone is beevering away in the background to find some information for you.
There is some information about the 5th Bn on the main site, just follow this link.
http://www.themanchesters.org/5th%20batt.htm

Timberman

[tonyrod]

hi gt , and welcome to the house of fun,  i cannot help you myself but i am sure you will be given  info on the 1/5 bn,  as  for the  museum thats always worth a visit,
      tonyrod

[DaveMurphy]

Kingo,

Are you able to post the MIC at a bigger size? My eyes won't squint any closer!

Cheers,

Dave

[timberman]

Hi GT

On the MIC It says he entered  on the 06/05/15 thearter of war was 2b the Balkans and had the 15star, also it says that he had a silver war badge. This was issued to soldiers that had been wounded and where no longer fit for active service.
It says Frank and original number was 439.

I think I'm right in saying that the 5th Bn where raised in Wigan, we have some photos of the soldiers in the drill hall, I'll see if I can find them.

Timberman

[kingo]

Any better Dave ? 

[timberman]

Does the SWB List say H/207/1

Thanks Timberman

[DaveMurphy]

Thanks mate!

It appears that Frank was a pre-war territorial and was then disembodied from Service on 24/1/1919.

I think the SWB list says H/207/1 so we may be able to look that up to see what illness/injury caused his discharge.

Cheers,

Dave

[kingo]

Right !-I will try again 

[timberman]

Nice one Kingo

The SWB List is H/3117/1

Timberman

[kingo]

14/15 Star roll for the 1/5th battalion.

[timberman]

It explaines a bit more about the SWB on this link.

http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=1839.0

It was issued for sickness and old age as well as being wounded.

Timberman

[GT]

Thanks, you guys are brilliant. In answer to some points, he was a pre-war Territorial. He enlisted aged 16 in April 1908 in 'B' Coy which was indeed based at Wigan. Thats definitely the right MIC as it has his old number of 439 on his paybook.

It comes as a surprise that he was given the SWB, nobody has ever mentioned that he was wounded. Is it possible to find out any more on that. Also I have an official photo at an Ex-Servicemens Rememberance Day Parade in 1932 and he has MSM behind his name. I presumed he had been awarded the Meritorious Service Medal but that is not on the MIC.

Cheers

[themonsstar]

BWM & VM Roll
200036 C/Sgt Taylor Frank.
1/5th Bn.


SWB Roll.
200036 CQMS Taylor Frank
Depot Manch Regt.
SWB No B347942.
Enlistment date 1/4/08.
Discharge date 27/1/19. (Para 392 XVI no longer fit for mil service).
Age 33.
Overseas Yes.

[GT]

Thanks for that 'themonsstar'. Is there a list available to confirm the award of MSM as in previous post.

GT