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Offline mack

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war grave location.17th manchesters
« on: May 02, 2019, 10:45:10 AM »
pte 8688 john knight.13 taylor st,harpurhey

john was accidentally shot in the abdomen at maricourt on 13-2-16 by L/Cpl 8690 Clarence,edward kelsall,he was admitted to the 5th CCS dangerously ill and then sent to the 2nd gen hospital at havre,it would be two weeks before john was stable enough to be sent home on the hospital ship st.denis,he was no longer fit to serve after he recovered and more operations would be needed in the next 12mths to repair his wounds,john died on 10-3-17 aged 25

johns CWGC commemoration doesn't give any grave details,only that hes buried in Philips park,manchester,theres also no grave registration form,ime guessing that hes a "in from the cold soldier"and they didn't know his burial location in the cemetery.

john is buried with his parents Samson+caroline in A.C.749
 
L/Cpl kelsall didn't survive the war either,he died of wounds in 5th CCS on 10th july 1916,the same CCS that he accidentally sent john to,he was 24yrs old,his brother L/Cpl 17949 james,william kelsall was killed in action on 1st july 1916 with the 20th manchesters

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Re: war grave location.17th manchesters
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2019, 11:23:37 AM »
Hi Mack,
The War Diary records 1 OR Wounded on 13/2/1916, so it's good to build a picture of who this was and what happened to him.
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2019, 07:24:16 PM »
tim.
will you contact the CWGC with his grave details,hes one of your lads

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2019, 08:11:08 PM »
It will be a pleasure.
I can see the Grave records corresponds with CWGC data, so hope that will be enough.
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Re: war grave location.17th manchesters
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2019, 01:30:09 PM »
Pte 8688 John Knight now has his grave location in Philips Park noted.
https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/75229752/knight,-john/

Thanks to http://www.infromthecold.org/index.asp for coordinating with CWGC for me.
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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2019, 06:17:00 PM »
that was quick,four weeks is pretty fast,they used to take months at one time

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2019, 10:50:22 PM »
Would’ve been quicker if IFCP chap hadn’t had a serious accident. These chaps are great & have a quick route to CWGC amendments. I think this is my fourth change, including a corrected date on a Headstone. I’m still uncomfortable with a few decisions, but don’t disagree as such.
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Re: war grave location.17th manchesters
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2019, 09:06:24 AM »
theres one thing that surprises me about the Brookwood memorial and the missing graves of those listed and that's the case of pte 296A verney asser of the AIF,he was hanged on 5-3-1918 at HM prison shepton mallet for murdering his comrade,his body is buried in a unmarked grave within the prison as is customary,i wonder why nobody found this out.


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