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Offline Black Sapper

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New to this site. Not sure if this guy Thomas Harding, aged 18, could have really been a senior NCO but family claim he was promoted quickly due to his athletic & boxing prowess.
Can anybody confirm that his uniform is that of a senior NCO with the 3rd Volunteer Battalion MC Regt? (We think this refers to the Manchester Regt)?
Apologies for poor quality of images.
Any other info or suggestions would be gratefully appreciated
Apologies but following further family research this photo was probably taken ca. 1888 in Lancashire as Thomas Harding has been found to have been born in Liverpool 28.07.1868 and in 1881 lived with his Mother in Stretford, Lancs. He married in Chorlton in 1886 to Frances Gronowsky.
This might help?
« Last Edit: November 12, 2018, 10:29:11 PM by timberman »

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Re: Query on uniform for Thomas Harding (moved from 1914-1918 section)
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2018, 10:17:00 PM »
 Hi Black Sapper

 Welcome to the forum.
 I can't help with the uniform (someone else may be able to)
 I would say if it was the 3rd Volunteer Battalion of the Manchester
 Regiment this became the 9th Battalion Manchester Regiment.
 As for him being a senior NCO at 18 years it's very possible.
 I had a relative that lied about his age and was a Sgt at 17 years
 although the army thought he was 19 years. This went right through
 his army life as on his paper work it had him as 2 years older than he was.

 Timberman
« Last Edit: November 12, 2018, 10:33:22 PM by timberman »

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Re: Query on uniform for Thomas Harding (moved from 1914-1918 section)
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2018, 10:56:26 PM »
Thanx. Scribbled note on photo says 'Scarlet Uniform'? Wouldn't this indicate photo is earlier than 1914 because didn't we stop wearing red tunics before WW1?

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Re: Query on uniform for Thomas Harding (moved from 1914-1918 section)
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2018, 06:17:00 AM »
The collardogs are correct for the Manchester Regt. The 3rd Vol. Bn only existed between 1881 & 1908, it became the 9th (Territorial Force) Bn during the Haldene reforms of that year.
http://www.themanchesters.org/9th%20batt.htm

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Re: Query on uniform for Thomas Harding (moved from 1914-1918 section)
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2018, 11:11:08 PM »
Charlie,
Many thanx  ..... just helped so much in the family research.. Thomas Harding must have served only between 1881  & 1891 as he was only age 13 living with his Mum (Dad was in prison) in Grafton Street, Stretford, Lancs. In 1891 he was aged 21/23, a Woolen Salesman, still living with his Mum in Lancaster Road, Withington, Didsbury, Lancs. He married in 1896 in Chorlton and lived with family in Albion Road, South Manchester - he was a Wool Salesman. I doubt that he served with the 9th and/or served in the Boer War? He definitely did not serve in WW1.
Your help very mcuh appreciated.