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L/cpl Albert Tommins
« on: November 11, 2007, 04:47:46 PM »
Hi Folks, I am new to the site so please be gentle with me, ta.
My wifes grandfather was 4973 L/cpl Albert Tommins, 2nd/5th Bn. KIA 21/3/1918 aged 33. We have been unable to turn up anything regarding his service history and prior to that, his time at Mather & Platt.
We lent some items to the A.U.L M/cr museum, these included his paybook, but when we tried to re-claim them-------they were lost. We got back a couple of items, but the paybook and an irreplacable photograph are still lost. Ah well.
That's it for my opening gambit, any help or advice will be apreciated.
Peter

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2007, 05:31:15 PM »
hi peter

welcome to the group

sory to hear that yours docs and photos were lost! i can't imagins how frustrating that would be

i'll move this over to the WW1 section and we'll see if we can do

cheers

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2007, 07:03:48 PM »
Thanks Chris.
Btw, is there a members photo' section on the site?
Peter

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2007, 08:10:05 PM »
yes, we have several photo galleries on the site

http://www.themanchesters.org/postcard%20links.htm

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2007, 11:10:58 AM »
L/cpl 4973 albert tommins
1st manchesters
oct 1917 with the 3rd manchesters.
age 33
killed in action 21-3-18 with 2/5th batt
born salford
lived with his wife at 39 mount st,salford [registered his vote from here in oct 1917]
worked at mather+platt[listed on their roll of honour]
parents john and alice, lived at 19 peel st,salford,also living here,was.

THIS MAN.
william tommins
9137 manchester regiment
cyclist corps
transferred to the RE as pte 360861.

ime not certain if alice was his real mother,his dad may have married twice ??

mack ;D

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2007, 11:55:09 AM »
from SDGW

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 12:00:13 PM »
just noticed the difference in date

however CWGC gives his date of death as 21st

 Name:     TOMMINS, ALBERT
Initials:    A
Nationality:    United Kingdom
Rank:    Lance Corporal
Regiment/Service:    Manchester Regiment
Unit Text:    2nd/5th Bn.
Age:    33
Date of Death:    21/03/1918
Service No:    4973
Additional information:    Son of John and Alice Tommins, of 19, Peel St., Salford; husband of Emma Tommins, of 39, Mount St., Salford, Manchester.
Casualty Type:    Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:    Panel 64 to 67.
Memorial:    POZIERES MEMORIAL

21st March was the opening day of the german spring offensive, the 2/5th were part of the 66th division, to see a potted version of the events of the day see this page on the main site

http://www.themanchesters.org/66th%20-6.htm
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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2007, 12:23:16 PM »
Well Folks, my gast is well and truly flabbered. Thank you so much for the immediate responce to my little enquiry. Some of the stuff we are already aware of through family history research, my wife is his granddaughter, but there are a couple of interesting new bits here. What I am interested in is his service history and maybe discover if his medals and penny were ever issued, surviving members of the family have no knowledge of their existance.
Thank's again
Peter

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2007, 12:42:14 PM »
all medal entitlements were sent out automatically after the war.

oppy
put a request on the british medal forum,they are a great bunch of helpful folks.

is this lad in your family tree.
joseph tommins
company serjeant major
kings liverpool regt
3rd battalion
24547
13 dalton st,ordsall [oct 1917]

mack ;D

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 12:50:49 PM »
here's a link to his medal index card, you can download it for £3.50

Description     
Medal card of Tommins, Albert
Corps   Regiment No   Rank
Manchester Regiment    4973    Private
Date    1914-1920
Catalogue reference    WO 372/20links to the Catalogue

http://www.tiny.cc/kew

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2007, 02:24:31 PM »
Hi again, I have managed to get a replica set of medals & Death Penny from Worcestershire Medal Service at www.worcmedals.com
They were not cheap but their service is superb, and they engraved them for me.
Thanks again chaps, for putting me on the right track.
Peter

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2007, 03:12:42 PM »
it's worth knowing that one of these companies is giving out a good service ( cos people do ask)  did they send you a scroll as well?
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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #12 on: November 21, 2007, 03:57:32 PM »
it's worth knowing that one of these companies is giving out a good service ( cos people do ask)  did they send you a scroll as well?
No, there was no scroll on their list, but we do have the cerificate copy that we got from Ashton. I need now to find some regimental insignia-------------any suggestions?
Peter

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2007, 07:56:25 PM »
worcestershire medals have been going for years,they are pretty good at repro medals,they give good service.

peter,was CSM joseph tommins related to him.
mack

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Re: L/cpl Albert Tommins
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2007, 08:14:50 PM »
Hi Mack, I've looked through my wifes family tree gubbins, but can find no reference to a Joseph. Of course that dosen't mean there isn't a link, its just not manifested itsself yet. On the other hand, we know of William. In fact uncle Willy lived in Heald Green until his death about 40 years ago and he left us £100 in his will.
Peter