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Offline Margaret

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WW1, location of soldier in September 1915
« on: July 15, 2017, 12:32:46 PM »
My grandfather, having served in India & The Boer wars re- enlisted in 1914. he was born 1869 so then 45 years old.
 
On 2 September 1915 when he was a Sergeant  and in the 13th (Labour Corp) he appears to be at Rowley camp?

I had thought that he was in the UK for this war, but he appears to have had travel passess and tickets for France.

Can anyone clarify this ? did this group of men go abroad, and what did they do and where?

In Africa, he had been in the Mounted Infantry.
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Offline Margaret

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13th battalion, in Sept 1915
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 10:56:28 AM »
I have posted this query on another board but not had any response.

My query is, on the September 2nd 1915 there is an entry on my GF  sheet b/121, which appears to show him at Bouerley Camp.?

At this date  he is 44 years old, having previously served in India, and South Africa as mounted infantry.

The sheet shows him as Labour Corp, so I presumed him to have been in the Uk for this part of his service, however some of the documents seem to show him on service in France.

There is a further sheet signed by Capt A G Shaw, .. Comdg "D" coy 3rd Battalion Manchester Regt. dated 18 Feb 1919

Can I find out where he served in this War period.?

thank you
 

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Re: 13th battalion, in Sept 1915
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 01:46:14 PM »
His name would be a help.

Also any service numbers.

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Re: WW1, location of soldier in September 1915
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 06:35:02 PM »
Margaret,
As a general rule soldiers could serve up to the age of 55. One of my relatives went with the 1/10th Bn to Egypt in 1914 and then to Gallipoli 1915, he was 50 when war broke out.

As Sphinx has already said, a name and if possible a service number would be helpful.

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Re: WW1, location of soldier in September 1915
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 06:48:41 PM »
From Margaret's 2nd post.

William Henry Massey born Manchester in 1869. enlistment number 2377.

He enlisted under the  surname of his stepfather as William Irving, in 1888,  but appears to have resumed his own name of Massey later on in his service, possibly when he was 21. 

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Re: WW1, location of soldier in September 1915
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2017, 07:11:44 PM »
He has a Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Admissions and Discharges
record but you have to pay Fold 3 a subscription to get access to the
record.


He went to France with the Manchester's as a Sjt 7/9/1915
number 3211 was entitled to the 1914-15 star, British and Victory medal.
Later joined the Lab corps as Sjt 569340.

Previous service was with the 2nd Bn.

His medal index card is on Ancestry 

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Re: WW1, location of soldier in September 1915
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 07:15:57 PM »
Margaret

This is his MIC, I will have to remove it tomorrow
so take a copy of it for your records.

You are really lucky, you have his service records for his first stint
in the Manchester's there is also his service records of his ww1 service.
He went to France with the 13th Bn.

13th (Service) Battalion K3.

Formed at Ashton-under-Lyne,
Sept 1914. K3 to Seaford, originally as Army Troops 25th Div. But soon to 66th Bde, 22 Div. In place of 14th Batt.
Nov 1914 to Eastbourne in billets. Mar 1915 Seaford. May 1915 Aldershot.
Early Sept 1915 landed in France. Oct/Nov 1915 to Salonika. 22.6.18. left 22nd Div, for France arriving Abancourt 11th July. 21.7.18 to 66th Div.
13.8.18. Absorbed by 9th Battalion.

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Due to copyright I've removed the MIC.
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Re: WW1, location of soldier in September 1915
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 08:25:24 PM »
Further to what has been posted here and in previous threads, his other postings:

Depot (Ashton u Lyne) 21.07.1917
3rd Bn (Cleethorpes) 02.10.1917
9? or J Base Depot (Etaples) 13.06.1918
11th Bn (France) 13.06.1918

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Re: WW1, location of soldier in September 1915
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2017, 09:38:27 AM »
He was in 180 Prisoner of War Company Labour Corps after leaving the Manchester Regiment.

180 PW Coy

27 Aug 18   180 PW Coy – tos LABROYE from ABBEVILLE – 3rd Army Diary
7 Sep 18   158, 164 & 180 PW Coys – (51 Gp) tos – 3rd Army Diary
180 PW Coy – consisting mainly of Polish PWs.  Instructions given that all Germans to be transferred out and then greater facilities will be given to the Poles and restrictions relaxed i.e. 1 escort to 15 men (not 10)
16 Sep 18   180 PW Coy – sos from LAYE-SUR-AUTHIE to LofC – 3rd Army Diary
17 Jul 19   180 PW Coy – tos HAVRICOURT (57C/K.27.d.3.3) from LofC – 1st Army Diary


Best of luck with your research