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Tips for searching the ICRC records
« on: February 26, 2015, 09:19:31 AM »
Here are some - I hope - useful tips for searching the ICRC records.

Bear in mind that there may be more than one card for the PoW and they may not necessarily be together. There is also the possibility that the name has a different (phonetic) spelling. Phonetic and mis spellings are common place. In a few instances fore and surname have been interchanged and the prisoner is listed under his forename. 25% of the Manchesters listed under THOMAS have had their fore and surnames reversed.


Some index cards have supplementary ones on the right had side - check them all as they are not always connected to the same person. Common names are sub-divided by Regiment, there is also a miscellaneous sub-section at the top - also worth checking. If there is no sub-section for the Regiment which is being searched for, try looking at the sub-sections above and below where it should be.

The search engine is in some cases rather useless as it takes you past where the name is. For example entering the letter U into the search engine takes you through to the name UPEX giving the impression that names such as UNDERWOOD etc are not listed. The names beginning with U actually start under TWELTREE. This is a re-occurring problem throughout the database.

It is not uncommon to find Infantry Regiments recorded not by their title but as a numbered Regiment of Foot, eg 96th Infantry Regt for 2nd Bn Manchesters. This seems to be contained to 1914-15. Ones that I have seen used are 1 (Royal Scots), 16 (Bedfordshire Regt), 38 (1st Bn South Staffordshire Regt), 60 (KRRC), 63 and 96 (1st and 2nd Bns Manchesters). There are bound to be others.

The abbreviations Batt and Bat (indicating Battalion) are sometimes wrongly interpreted as Battery. The PoW then being incorrectly indexed under Royal Artillery.

Some Royal Fusiliers particularly A Coy are wrongly indexed as Royal Field Artillery, some RAF are to be found there as well.

There are quite a number of LF's listed wrongly as Manchesters. They have their LF's numbers but are indexed as Manchesters. Some RF's/London Regt are also listed as Manchesters. They are mostly attachments to City Bn's in 1916. Some RAMC are filed under ASC and vice versa.

Among the Manchesters sections there are a few Middlesex Regt using the abbreviation "M R". Quite a few of these are those taken on 27.05.1918 at Berry au Bac

RSF, SCOTTISH RIFLES, SCOTS GUARDS are sometimes to be found under ROYAL SCOTS

NZ Soldiers are indexed with the Australians

The "R" series of numbers on the index cards finishes at R53543, any higher numbers found on the index cards lead to a dead end. The documents either no longer exist or have not been digitized.

The following common Manchesters names have been listed under the MGC sub-section. Some RE, RM & London Regt are also to be found there.
Brady
Bromley
Burgess - to be found under Burgeess
Conroy
Conway
Craig
Henry
Henshall
Lambert

The names in the GALLIPOLI file are indexed badly. In 90% of the cases the  search engine takes you past the name being searched for. eg names starting with AN start under ALVIN, BAL starts under BAIRD, AD starts under AARONS etc,etc. This also applies when the Index letter changes eg the first names beginning with B are to be found under the last section of names beginning with A etc. This also applies to the MACEDONIA and BRITISH SERVICEMEN INTERNED IN SWITZERLAND files.

The GALLIPOLI file also contains the PoWs taken in MESOPOTAMIA, EGYPT & PALESTINE.

In many cases the Scottish Regts are not separated, look at the Scottish Regts which are listed.

In some cases Mc And Mac have been omitted from the name and they are filed under the next letter eg MacKenzie is filed as Kenzie.

B
Ball is listed under Bell.

BAINBRIDGE are to be found under the miscellaneous subsection of BAILIE.

BURGESS - is to be found under BURGEESS

BOWEN - YORK & LANCASTER REGT contains names beginning with BOW* from other Regiments.

BOYD - YORKSHIRE REGT contains names beginning with BOY from other Regiments.

BOYLE - ROYAL WEST KENT REGT contains names beginning with BOY from other Regts

BOLTON - YORK AND LANCASTER REGT contains names beginning with BOL & BOM from other Regts.

BIRD - YORK AND LANCASTER REGT contains BIRD from other Regts.

BIRD - WARWICKSHIRE REGT contains BAIRD - WELSH FUSILIERS.

BLACKBURN - WEST YORKSHIRE REGT contains 24123 WILFRED BLACKBURN YORKS AND LANCS and 27791 E BLACKETT 23/NF.

BENNETT - WORCESTERSHIRE REGT contains BENNETT- YORKSHIRE REGT

BRADLEY - WEST YORKSHIRE REGT contains BRADLEY - YORKSHIRE REGT and YORKS AND LANCS.

BRIGHT - WORCESTERSHIRE REGT contains names beginning with BRI* from other Regts.

BROMLEY - YORKSHIRE REGT contains names beginning with BROM* and BRON from other Regts.

BUCHANAN - SOUTH AFRICAN FORCES contains a few names beginning with BUC* from other Regts.

BRADY - WEST YORKSHIRE REGIMENT contains BRADY - YORKS AND LANCS and YORKSHIRE REGT. It also conatins names from other Regts beginning with BRAE*, BRAG* and BRAH*.

BRETT - WEST YORKSHIRE REGT contains names from other Regts beginning with BRET*

BRIGGS - WEST YORKSHIRE REGT contains BRIGGS - WELSH REGT.

BUCK - WEST YORKSHIRE REGT contains BUCK - YORKSHIRE REGT  and names from other Regts beginning with BUC*

BULLOCH - YORKSHIRE REGT contains names beginning with BUL* from other Regts

BYRNE and BARNS  are indexed under BURNS.

BURROWS - WORCESTERSHIRE REGT contains names beginning with BUR* from other Regts.

BUTCHER - YORK AND LANCASTER REGT contains names beginning with BUT* from other Regts.

BAKER for those Regts not listed under BAKER are under BAINSDALE



C
Quite a few names beginning with CAP are to be found under CANTRELL

Under the section CLAA (121 entries) there are probably 70 entries starting with CE and about another 30 starting with CHA. Many of the "CE"s would seem to be phonetic spellings that could be of names beginning with S.

The section COOMBE (Royal) Air Force has 303 index cards, 302 of these look to be blank. They have been uploaded showing the reverse side, the information is contained on the other side. They contain names from all Regiments from COOMBE through to and including COOPER.

Under the section CRONIN - YORK AND LANCASTER REGT, there are 2 Y&L CRONINS and 15 others from other Regt's with the names: CRONK, CRONSHAW, CRONT, CROWTHER, CROOKE and CROOG.

CAIN WORCESTER RGT - Contains CAI* from all Regiments

CAINS RAF - contains a few CAI from Scottish Regts

CALVERT YORKSHIRE REGT - contains CALV*, CALW* and CAM* from all Regts

CAMPBELL YORKSHIRE REGT - contains CAMP* and CAN* from all Regts

CHANDLER WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains CHAN* from all Regts

CHAPMAN ROYAL SCOTS - contains CHAPMAN from other Scottish Regts

CHISHOLM SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS - contains CHIS* from all Regts

CLEMENS WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains CLEM* from all Regts

COATES YORKS AND LANCS - contains COA* and some COB* from all Regts

COLLIN WEST YORKSHIRE REGT - contains COLL* from all Regts

COLLIN YORKSHIRE REGT - contains COLL* from all Regts

CORNWALL YORKSHIRE REGT  - contains CORN*, CORP* and CORR* from all Regts

COX SHERWOOD FORESTERS - contains COX SOMERSET LI

CROOK WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains CROO* and CROP* from all Regts

CROSSBY YORKS AND LANCS - contains CROSS* from all Regts

CRUICKSHANKS are listed under CRUICKBANKS


D
DIXON is to be found under DICKSON

20 names from all Regiments starting with DUR* can be found under DURRANT - YORKSHIRE REGT.

E
EDWARDS from the London Regt and Royal Fusiliers are mixed in with the MGC and Marine

EMERY YORKSHIRE REGT - contains EME* and EMI* from all Regts

EVERETT YORKSHIRE REGT - contains EVER* from all Regts

F
FISH, FITCH, FISK, FISKE, FYSH and some FISHER are to be found under FISKE.

FISHER RE are to be found under FISKE RE.

Some FISHER, FISH, FITCH, FISHBURN, FiISHELL and FISHENDEN from various Regiments are to be found under FISKE ESSEX REGT

FOSTER is listed under both FOSTER & FORSTER

FIELDING WILTSHIRE REGT - contains FIEL* from all Regts

FINCH WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains FINC* and FIND* from all Regts

FORBE WILTSHIRE REGT - contains FORB* and FORC* from all Regts

FORD YORKSHIRE REGT- contains FORDA* and FORDG* from all Regts

FOWLER YORKS AND LANCS - contains FOWL* from all Regts

G
GEORGE Gloucester Regt are listed under MGC.

GEORGE is really mixed up, it would be worth looking through all of them if who you are looking for isn't where he should be.

Some GARDNER are listed under GARBRETT

GREEN - RFC/RAF are listed under GREEN (Misc)

GREEN - RFA, RGA & RHA are listed under Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders.

Some GROV*,GROVE, GROVER, GROVES are to be found under GROSS.

GROVER, GROSS, GROSSE and GROSE are to be found under GROUND.

Names beginning with GRU* start under GROVETHER.
GULLUM and GUNN are to be found under GUM.

Some GUN* are to be found under GUMB.

GRANT WEST YORKSHIRE REGT - contains GRANT YORKSHIRE REGT

GREEN LONDON REGT - contains GREEN LOYAL NORTH LANCS

GRIFFIT MARINE - contains GRIFFITHS MONMOUTHSHIRE REGT

GRIFFIT WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains GRIFFITHS YORKSHIRE REGT

GRIFFIT YORKS AND LANCS - contains GRIFFON from all Regts

H
HILL North Staffordshire Regt are to be found under Northumberland Fusiliers

HIGGINS WORCESTERSHIRE REGT are listed under Manchester Regt

HISLOP contains some names beginning with I and L’

HONE is to be found under HOMBA

HONER and HONNER are to be found under HOMER

Some HONEYW* are to be found under HONEYCOELL

HETHERINGTON YORKSHIRE REGT - contains a few HET* from other Regts

The index cards for the name HALL are missing.

HOBBS SHERWOOD FORESTERS - contains HOBBS NORTHAMPTONSHIRE AND MIDDLESEX REGTS

HOBBS SOUTH AFRICAN FORCES - contains HOBBS RND

Some HOBBS are listed under HOBROYD

HODGESON YORKSHIRE REGT - contains HODIER MIDDSEX REGT and HOLDER KINGS OWN ROYAL LANCASTER REGT

HOGAN YORKSHIRE REGT - contains HOGARTY RMF

HOLMES YORKSHIRE REGT - contains HOLMES WORCESTERSHIRE REGT

HOLMES WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains HOLMES SCOTTISH RIFLES

HOOPER CHESHIRE REGT - contains HOOPER DEVONSHIRE REGT

HOPE QO ROYAL WEST KENT REGT  - contains HOOPER QORWK  and HOPE WEST YORKSHIRE REGT

HOPE ?? - contains HOPE ROYAL ARTILLERY

HOPE NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS - contains HOPE NORTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGT

HORN WEST YORKSHIRE REGT - contains HORN* from all Regts

HOSKIN WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains HOS* from all Regts

HOUGHS GLOUCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains HOQ* from the IRISH REGTS

HOWARTH is listed under HOWARD

HUNTER YORKSHIE REGT - contains HUNTERSTONE RND and HUNTING RAMC

HUTCHING YORKSHIRE REGT - contains HUTCHERAFT RIFLE BRIGADE

HYDE YORKSHIRE REGT - contains HY* fro all Regts


I
Some names beginning with I are to be found under HISLOP.

INGRAM YORKSHIRE REGT - contains ING* from all Regts

IRWIN WORCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains IRW* from all Regts

IRWIN YORKSHIRE REGT - contains IRVING from all Regts

J
JONES is to be found under JOHNE.

JACKSON RAMC are under JACKSON RAF

JACKSON RA - contains JACKSON BEDFORDSHIRE REGT

JACKSON KINGS LIVERPOOL REGT - contains JACKSON KINGS OWN ROYAL LANCASTER REGT

JACKSON GRENADIER GUARDS - contains JACKSON HAMPSHIRE REGT

JOHNSON RAF - contains JOHNSON from all Regts

JOHNSON ?? - contains JOHNSON from all Regts

JONES RAF - contains JONES A CYC CORPS

JOWETT YORKSHIRE REGT - contains JOW* from all Regts

JOYCE LONDON RIFLE BRIGADE - contains JOYCE LINCOLNSHIRE REGT


K
Some KELLY MGC and RND are mixed in with the Manchesters

Some KNE* are to be found under KMOTT

233 names beginning with KIRK* from all Regiments are to be found under KIRK, YORKSHIRE REGT

KAY YORKS AND LANCS - contains KAY* and KEA* from all Regts

KEAM contains KEAN,KEEN and KEENE from all Regts

KEAM ARGYLL AND SUTHERLAND HIGHLANDERS - contains KEAN, KEEN and KEENE from RA, RAMC, AIF and BEDFORDSHIRE REGT

KEAT YORKS AND LANCS contains KEAT* from all regts

KELLY WEST YORKSHIRE REGT - contains KELLY YORKSHIRE REGT

KID RIFLE BRIGADE - contains KID* from the Scottish Regts

KIRBY YORKSHIRE REGT - contains KIRBY WEST YORKSHIRE REGT

KIRK YORKSHIRE REGT - contains KIRK* from all Regts

KNIGHT QORW SURREY REGT - contains KNIGHT SUFFOLK and SUSSEX REGTS

KNIGHT SUFFOLK REGT - contains KNIGHT SUSSEX REGT


L
Some names beginning with L are to be found under HISLOP.

LEA* start under LAZENBY

LO* start under LLWYD

LARGE are to be found under LAPDEN

LISTER (GALLIPOLI FILE) contains CORBETT A, DOWNER ARTHUR and FORBES ARTHUR G.

LAING RAF - contains LAING ASC, A&SH, AIF, BERKSHIRE REGT, BORDER REGT, and CAMERON HIGHLANDERS

LAMB WEST RIDING REGT - contains LAMB WEST YORKSHIRE REGT

LAWSON NORTHAMPTONSHIRE REGT - contains LAWSON NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS

LAWTON WEST YORKSHIRE REGT - contains LAW* and LAX* from all Regts

LEE DCLI - contains LEE DLI

LEE EAST YORKSHIRE REGT - contains some LEE RE

LEE YORKS AND LANCS - contains LEE* from all Regts

LEONARD are filed under LEMON

LWEIS RA - contains LEWIS ESSEX REGT

M
"Mc" and "Mac" are all listed under MAC + the next letter of the name.

Some MacP* and McP* are to be found under MAC O.

Some MacO*, MacR*, McO* and McR* are to be found under MAC P (no Regiment)

The sub-sections for the names MOFFET (which contains MOFFET, MOFFAT, MOFFIT and MOFFITT) and MOFFIELS (which contains names mostly beginning with MOG*) are completely out of alphabetical sequence. They are at the very beginning of the names beginning with M and are easiest accessed by typing the letter M into the search engine.

MAC F RAF - contains MAC LABOUR CORPS and A&SH

MARSDEN WEST RIDING REGT - contains MARSDEN WEST YORKSHIRE REGT

MILLER ROYAL SCOTS - contains some MILLER, MILLAR and MELLOR WEST YORKSHIRE REGT

MOODY YORKS AND LANCS - contains MOO* from all Regts


N

Names beginning with NI* in the GALLIPOLI file are under MICHOLS
NEWTON, NEYLAND and NIBLOCK in the GALLIPOLI file are under MEWCOM

O
The first names beginning with O start under NYE

P
PITT Yorks and Lancs Regt contains names beginning with PITT* from other Regiments

POW* start under Povay

Some names starting with PRA* are to be found under PYROLI

PRESTON YORKSHIRE REGT - contains PRE* from all Regts

PERRY YORKSHIRE REGT - contains PERRY WEST YORKSHIRE REGT

Q
Names beginning with Q start under PYOTT

QUIN  YORKS and LANCS - contains QUI* from all Regts

R
ROUTLEDGE - YORKSHIRE REGT contains about 48 names from all Regiments beginning with ROW

There are many names starting with RED* from all different Regiments under REDMOND WEST RIDING.

Some RILEY are to be found under RIMMER.

Names beginning with ROW* from all Regiments are also to be found under ROUTLEDGE (124), ROUTLEDGE YORKSHIRE REGT and ROYAL.

The index cards for the names REES(E) & REECE are missing

RADFORT YORKS AND LANCS - contains RAD* RAF

RAWLAND YORKS AND LANCS - contains RAW* and ROW* from all Regts

RAYMOND SUFFOLK REGT - contains RAX* and RAY* from all Regts

READ QO ROYAL WEST KENT REGT - contains READ, REED and RIED WEST RIDING, WEST YORKSHIRE and WILTSHIRE REGTS

READ DLI - contains READ, REED and RIED EAST YORKSHIRE REGT

REDMOND WEST RIDING REGT - contains RED* from all Regts

RENNI SEAFORTH HIGHLANDERS - contains REN* from all Regts

RICHARDSON YORKSHIRE REGT - contains RICHARDSON and RIC* from all Regts

ROSE HERTFORDSHIRE REGT - contains ROSS HLI

ROSE MIDDLESEX REGT - contains ROSS MGC

ROWE YORKSHIRE REGT - contains ROW* from all Regts

RUSSELL ROYAL ENGINEERS are indexed under RUSSEL EAST YORKSHIRE REGT

S
Names beginning with S start under RYDING

SEYMOUR - YORKSHIRE REGT contains about 330 names from all Regiments beginning with SH and with the odd one or two starting with SC and SA.

SCHOFIELD and SHEFFIELD are to be found under SHEFFREY

SHAW WEST RIDING REGT contains SHAW for WEST YORKSHIRE, WILTSHIRE, WORCESTERSHIRE AND YORK AND LANCASTER REGIMENTS

SHEPHERD RN, RND are to be found under SHEPARD MANCHESTER REGT.

SHORT is under SHORE

SHEK*, SHEL*, SK*, SHEO* and some SCH* names are listed under SHEIDEGGER

SHAW GLOUCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains SHAW from other Regts

T
Names beginning with TE* start under TAYLORN

TURNER EAST KENTS are to be found under TURNER - DLI.

Names beginning with THORN* start under THORBY

THORPER contains names beginning with THR*,THU*, THW*, TI* THY* and some but not all TIL*

Names beginning with TOA*, TOB*, and TOC* are to found under TITCOMBE

Names beginning with TOD* to the start of TOM* are to be found under TODDINGTON

Names beginning with TOO* start under TOMMINS

Names beginning with TOR* start under TOOMER

Names beginning with TOU* start under TORRANCE

Names beginning with TOW* start under TOUL

Names beginning with TOWNS* start under TOWLER

Names beginning with TRA* start under TOWNSING

Names beginning with TRE* start under TRANTER

Names beginning with TRI* start under TREE

Names beginning with TRO* start under TRIGGER

Names beginning with TRU*, TRY*, TUB*, and TUC* are under TROWER

Names beginning with TUD*, TUE*, TUF*, TUG*, TUH*, TUI*, TUK* and TUL* are to be found under TUCKERMAN.

Names beginning with TUN*, TUP* and the start of names beginning with TUR* are under TUMBELTY

Names beginning with TUS*, TUT*, TUX*, TUZ*, TWA* and the start of TWE* are to be found under TURNEY.

Names beginning with TWI*, TWO*, TWY* and TY* are under TWELTREE

TAYLOR - WORCESTERSHIRE RGT (GALLIPOLI FILE) contains names beginning with TE* from other Regiments.

U
Names beginning with U start under TWELTREE

W
WAB*, WAC* and the start of WAD* are under WAAHAM

WAK* start under WAIR.

There are more miscellaneous WARD under WARD - ARTILLERY

WARD SUFFOLK REGT are also to be found under WARD NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS

WAM*, WAN*, WAP* and the start of WAR* are under WALY

Some names beginning with WARN* are under WARDALE

WARNER is under WARMER

WAS*, the start of WAT* and names beginning with WATER* are under WARRENDER

WATERSON - Y & L also contains WATERS, WATERSON and  WATERWORTH from other Regt’s

WATSON is to be found under WATNER

WEBS* start under WEBBER

WED* start under WEBSTON

WHEADON and WHEATLEY are under WHAEDON and WHAETLEY

WHITB* start under WHITAKES

WHITC* start under WHITBY

WILSON RN/RND are listed under WILSON MGC in the GALLIPOLI file.

WILSON WORCESTERSHIRE REGT (GALLIPOLI FILE) contains names beginning with WI* from all Regiments

WALKER WEST YORKSHIRE REGT - contains WALKER WILTSHIRE REGT and LANCASHIRE FUSILIERS

WATERSON YORKS AND LANCS - contains WATER* from other Regts

WATTS GOUCESTERSHIRE REGT - contains WATT and WATTS GORDON HIGHLANDERS

WATTS LINCOLNSHIRE REGT - contains WATT and WATTS LONDON REGT/ROYAL FUSILIERS

WEEKS WILTSHIRE REGT - contains WEEKS YORKSHIRE REGT

WILSON CAMBRIDGESHIRE REGT - contains WILSON from other Regts

Y
Many names beginning with Y are to be found under J eg YATES is found under JASPER.



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