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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #510 on: August 03, 2016, 11:00:37 AM »
Is anything further known regarding 2465 James Tupman? He has an old entry prior to 2009 in our database, all we have is his number, rank and name and 2nd Bn. He has no entry in the ICRC database.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #511 on: August 04, 2016, 09:10:02 AM »
Any ideas please which John Turner this is. He is just listed by the ICRC as L/Cpl John Turner, 2/6th Bn. There is a 202531 John Turner 2/5th Bn listed as well. Could they be one and the same? The trouble is there are another possible ten John Turners in the MiCs.

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/512445/3/2/

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #512 on: August 04, 2016, 09:00:51 PM »
hiya Charlie
45408 Vincent tinsley was 2/5th battalion

202531 john,robert turner 2/5th batt,is the only one listed theres no john turner in 2/6th

2465 james tupman was killed in action on 26th august 1914,he must have been added by mistake

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #513 on: August 05, 2016, 10:15:35 AM »
Thanks Mack. Have you an idea who this Joseph Torner may be.

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/4258436/3/2/

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #514 on: August 06, 2016, 08:24:55 PM »
Thanks Mack. Have you an idea who this Joseph Torner may be.

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/4258436/3/2/

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no problem Charlie,hes pte 202384 joseph turner,25 ash st,oswaldtwistle,2/5th batt

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #515 on: August 07, 2016, 08:38:24 AM »
Thanks Mack, I've got him now, he is indexed by the ICRC as Joseph Turnbull on another card.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #516 on: August 09, 2016, 03:31:10 PM »
Which Harry Walker is this please,he is listed by the ICRC as 12th Bn.

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/2177363/3/2/

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #517 on: August 10, 2016, 08:48:08 PM »
hiya Charlie
theres only one listed in the medal rolls for the 12th batt but he wasn't a prisoner

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #518 on: August 11, 2016, 08:37:41 AM »
Thanks Mack, it looks like he was another mis-file.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #519 on: August 23, 2016, 08:56:20 AM »
A number please for Herbert Whitehead 17th Bn

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/4899241/3/2/

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #520 on: August 23, 2016, 09:36:55 AM »
There is contradictory information regarding two Fred Whiteheads - 51078 and 276771 - in the CWGC and ICRC records.

51078 is listed as having died on the 24.03.1918 by the CWGC and just as missing on the 21.03.1918 by the ICRC. There are no further entries for him in the ICRC database.
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/851107/WHITEHEAD,%20FREDERICK
http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/4839754/3/2/

276771 is listed as having died on 21.03.1918 by the CWGC and having died on 24.03.1918 at a German Aid Post in Jeancourt by the ICRC. He is also listed as JW Whitehead by the ICRC.

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/2651033/3/2/
http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/List/5248416/1872/29112/
http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/236803/WHITEHEAD,%20F

51078 is in our database as being taken PoW on 21.03.1918, is there any evidence to support this?

It seems to me that on the basis of the ICRC records the CWGC has got in a muddle their dates of death.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #521 on: August 24, 2016, 07:27:42 PM »
A number please for Herbert Whitehead 17th Bn

http://grandeguerre.icrc.org/en/File/Details/4899241/3/2/

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hiya Charlie
his number was 52014

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #522 on: August 24, 2016, 07:48:35 PM »
hiya Charlie
I have 51078 fred whitehead down as dying of wounds on 24th march,you could always add that he may have been a POW.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #523 on: August 24, 2016, 09:15:51 PM »
Thanks Mack,
I don't suppose you know what wounds 51078 Fred Whitehead had suffered.

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Re: A place for PoW database amendments and additions
« Reply #524 on: August 24, 2016, 11:33:47 PM »
Thanks Mack,
I don't suppose you know what wounds 51078 Fred Whitehead had suffered.

Charlie
hiya Charlie
SDGW just says DOWs,thats all I could find,its 3 days after the hill was overrun,so its possible he was in german hands when he died

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