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Offline pierce09

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James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« on: January 05, 2013, 04:19:50 PM »
ok, so i've just been informed of a relative (my great uncle) who served with the Manchesters during WW2. i know nothing about him, not his number, location, dates or anything. so i was putting this on here to ask if anyone knows where a good place to start is!
i will eventually search the Manchester Regt archives but i'd like to narrow down a bit first, maybe his service number and battalion first. i have no relatives to ask other than my grandfather (his brother) but he knows nothing of his service. there was another brother in the Royal Engineers during the war too (Wilf or William) Viner but again, nothing about his service is known.
i'm still learning about my family in the 1914-18 war and think there may have been at least one Viner from my side in the Manchesters then but as yet, i'm still searching.
any help whatsoever would be gratefully appreciated
Thank you

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Re: James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 12:36:24 PM »
Hi Rhys and Welcome to our forum

Sadly there is not too much openly available to the WW2 researcher, on individuals in the war due to Data Protection, but the good news is that with a copy of their death certificate, £30 and a lot of patience you can obtain a copy of their service record from the MOD via this link scroll down to "Apply for Service personnel service records"

Wendi  :)

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Offline pierce09

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Re: James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 06:52:19 PM »
Wendi,

yeah i had to do this for my Grandad who was in the Merchant Navy.

Sadly, i'm a serviceman myself, and i'm out in Nevada on a posting here. i have no access to his death certificate.

i mentioned it on here in the hope someone would know a website or something so i could look online form here.

thanks anyway!

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Re: James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2013, 06:25:24 PM »
is it possible or practical to find out James Anthony Viner's service number from any papers kept at the Manchester Regt archives and museum? i understand without going through the MOD records in Glasgow i won't be able to find out much but at least his service number would be a start for any future research i do.

i see WW2 service records aren't due to be released until 2020!! i find this a bit excessive!

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Re: James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 10:47:43 AM »
All you have to do is send a request by email to the Archivist, pointing out that you cannot get to the archives.  She or one of her colleagues will be pleased to look it up for you.
Robert

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Re: James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2013, 08:48:58 PM »
Thanks Robert. fingers crossed!

Offline pierce09

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Re: James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2013, 06:32:46 PM »
Archivist was very helpful and i think my great uncle's service number is 3535131. it looks like he possibly enlisted 30-5-40 and was transferred to the reserves (Z class) on 4-5-46

question is, still trying to find out his battalion. i'm back in the UK from mid April but if anyone has any further info, i'd be very grateful!!

thanks Robert by the way, archivist sent a very nice email. i'll be visiting the archives as soon as i return

Rhys

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Re: James (Jim) Viner Manchester Regt
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2018, 06:57:50 PM »
So, an update. I'm no longer overseas and i've got a bit further with this soldier.

I've narrowed it down to possibly being 6th Manchesters from 1940 through to the re-numbering in 1943 and then being in the 1st battalion.

Family say he spoke of meeting his brother (an RE Sapper) post D-Day in Normandy. He was allegedly in a mortar section and possibly part of 51st Div (probably 53rd Div and either misheard or forgotten)

How long did basic training take back in 1940? if he signed up just after the outbreak of war, how long would it have been until he was at his unit? are there any training records available to Manchester around this time? and where was Basic Training conducted?

Any info would be gratefully appreciated.

R