Author Topic: Date of entry on the MIC's  (Read 7490 times)

timberman

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Date of entry on the MIC's
« on: July 03, 2012, 10:31:20 PM »
Taken from a post on the GWF

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=151414


You're right when you say that the info on the MIC's were compiled from different sources. 

If you look at a man's service record, the date on which he left the UK (i.e. the date on which he left 'Home Establishment') is regarded for admin purposes as the date he entered the new theatre (MEF in the case of men bound for Egypt or Gallipoli).  Yet, as you've found, there may be a gap of a week or more between 'entering' this new theatre and actually arriving there.  I posted a couple of replies on that other thread which addresses this, so I won't reiterate those points here, suffice to say that some MIC's (or more likely the medal rolls that the MIC's were based on) were mainly, but not exclusively, compiled from the battalion's own records and also would have been compiled in 1917, long after many of the men on it were killed or had left.  So some dates will have had to come from other units or from the man's own service papers.  Some clerks may have found his 'date of entry' on his actual attestation papers (which would show the date of entry as being the date he left the UK), while others seem to have used the more accurate 'Casualty Form'.  In the case of the Casualty Form, the correct date is recorded in a column on the right hand side of the page, while the date on which this entry was made (often a few days later) is recorded on the left.  So there was some scope for error when using this source; you'll find lots of people on this forum getting these dates mixed up.  I believe that these various reasons may explain the variety of different dates that appear for men who all arrived in theatre on the same ship.

Clearly there were advanced parties, but I suspect that this was much more common for units sailing for France rather than those sailing for the middle east, although I may be wrong about this point.  There may also have been some stragglers whose departure was delayed for some reason.

Timberman

P.s. Capital letters used in posts for people that don't know is shouting!!!!


timberman

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Re: Date of entry on the MIC's
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 10:32:49 PM »
Taken from Ancestry

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Timberman
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