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StephB

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Private Herbert Gibson Long
« on: November 01, 2007, 10:32:06 AM »
Hello!

Could anybody out there help me glean some information about my Great Uncle.  I would like to know anything surrounding the circumstances of his death - I know many soldiers died on the same day and are interred in the same cemetery.  Also if anyone has any other details about his army service it would be much appreciated!  His details are as follows:

Herbert Gibson Long - Private 76562

Manchester Regiment - Unit 12th (Duke of Lancaster's own Yeomanry) Battalion

Died 4 November 1918 aged 19

Buried - Englefontaine British Cemetery

Many Thanks!!

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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2007, 12:04:37 PM »
hi steph

and welcome to the group

herbert gibson long
born, filey
enlisted, howden
resided, eastrington

he was formerly in the east yorks regiment, service number 40053

killed in action, 4 nov 18,

he nearly made it  :( , we can certainly tell you what happened on that day, unless anyone beats me to it, i will have a look tonight at Robert's book on the 12th batt and the war diaries

cheers

chris
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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2007, 12:35:31 PM »
the 4th was the day they attacked the village of futoy,the germans used mustard gas that day.
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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2007, 09:20:54 PM »
i'm afraid i can't add much more as the war diary is very difficult to read,

the battalion formed up drawing rations and ammunitions for 2 days, after a successful artillery and machine gun barrage they attacked and were very successful. as mack has said the battalion suffered from the mustard gas the germans used asa ndefensive measure
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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2007, 11:02:57 AM »
Thank you very much for your information :)

Steph

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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2007, 11:11:30 AM »
this may sounds a little callous, but by WW1 standards that wasn't a bad day, the battalion lost 35 men (as per soldiers died) no doubt many more wounded
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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2007, 02:40:02 PM »
sorry steph

i meant to post his Soldiers Died entry but got distracted

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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2007, 10:51:02 AM »
Thank you for posting that - it's much appreciated!

Steph

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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2007, 10:53:36 AM »
robert has written/edited a small book on the 12th battalion you may be interested in, available from the museum

ask him nicely and he'll probably autograph it

http://www.tameside.gov.uk/webapps/shopping/moreinfo.php3?363
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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2007, 11:34:19 AM »
Thank you - It looks an interesting book - I will order it

Steph

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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 11:48:23 PM »
this is his medal index card, it's downloadable from the NA, but i suspect it won't tell you a lot more

Description     
Medal card of Long, Herbert G
Corps   Regiment No   Rank
Manchester Regiment    76562    Private
Date    1914-1920
Catalogue reference    WO 372/12links to the Catalogue

http://www.rootschat.com/links/02bk/
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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2007, 10:33:52 AM »
Thanks for that

Would you know what medals he would have been awarded?

Steph

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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2007, 11:29:26 AM »
at a guess, looking at his service number, probably the British War Medal and the Victory Medal
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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2007, 10:03:00 AM »
Name: LONG
Initials: H G
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: Manchester Regiment
Unit Text: 12th (Duke of Lancaster's Own Yeomanry) Bn.
Age: 19
Date of Death: 04/11/1918
Service No: 76562
Additional information: Son of Mr. J. Long, of Eastrington, Hull.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: A. 28.
Cemetery: ENGLEFONTAINE BRITISH CEMETERY


Englefontaine was captured by the 18th and 33rd Divisions on the 26th October, 1918. It was later "adopted" by the Borough of Cheltenham. Englefontaine British Cemetery was made by the Burial Officer of the 38th (Welsh) Division in November, 1918, and enlarged after the Armistice by the concentration of graves from Les Tuileries British Cemetery. There are now over 150, 1914-18 war casualties commemorated in this site. Of these, nearly 10 are unidentified. The cemetery covers an area of 586 square metres and is enclosed by a low rubble wall. LES TUILERIES BRITISH CEMETERY, ENGLEFONTAINE, was behind the garden of a house, on the North side of the road to Salesches, at a hamlet called Les Tuileries. It was made by the 33rd and 38th Divisions in November, 1918, and contained the graves of 55 soldiers from the United Kingdom.

CWGC info,
regards
tisgrannie

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Re: Private Herbert Gibson Long
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2007, 05:53:14 PM »
Thanks for the info - my sister has been to the cemetery and took photos of Herberts Grave - she's probably the only member of our family to visit the site to my knowledge!  If I wanted to upload the image of his grave to this site, how do I go about it?

Steph