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Serjeant William Alfred Bower 202376-Help Please
« on: November 03, 2022, 05:41:26 PM »
Hi,

I am researching my Great Grandfather 202376 Serjeant William Alfred Bower. I have just finished getting his grave sorted with the fantastic people of the CWGC, where he now has a fitting headstone.


He served in the Manchester regiment 1884-1891 and then again 1914-18, where he was medically discharged, receiving a Silver War Badge(which I have yet to find) number B54097. I cannot find any medal entitlement for WW1 despite him serving in that period. If anybody can tell me whether he would have been entitled to any medals,it would be greatly appreciated.

I am also struggling as to what the correct cap badge and collar dogs were for that period? Fleur de Lys. Brass? Silver? which collar dogs, there ar ea few different Egypt" sphinx badges out there.

His service is as follows:

WILLIAM ALFRED BOWER

DOB: Born at Sea 12/1864 Registered in Isle Of White 1865.    
REGT NUMBER: 202376   
MANCHESTER  REGIMENT   

ORIGINALLY ENLISTED   
13/02/1884
DISCHARGED   12/02/1896

PROMOTED CORPORAL   
05/05/1884
PROMOTED LANCE SERGEANT   01/01/1886
PROMOTED SERGEANT   07/12/1886

MEDICAL   

ASHTON   
14/02/1884
SHORNCLIFFE   28/08/1884
ALDERSHOT   15/10/1886
TIPPERARY   09/04/1888
??????????   06/04/1889
CUSSAGH           08/01/1890
TIPPERARY   15/03/1890
??????????   04/03/1890
TIPPERARY   05/07/1890
CORK HARBOUR   04/11/1890
ALDERSHOT   03/07/1891
KINSALE           03/10/1891
IN CONFINEMENT  (6 DAYS)   27/09/1891
TRIED FOR DRUNKENESS           02/10/1891
REDUCED TO RANKS                   03/10/1891
TRANSFERRED TO RESERVE   06/11/1891


PASSED: HYTHE (?)CERTIFICATE    05/05/1888
PASSED: MOUNTED INFANTRY CERTIFICATE 12/03/1890

COMPLETED 12 YEARS WITH COLORS

ENLISTED: ROYAL LANCASHIRE RESERVE REGT 26/03/1900
DISCHARGED: 25/03/1901

RE-ENLISTED:7/9/14 5rH (RES) BN MANCHESTER  REGT PROMOTED TO SGT 16/9/14
DISCHARGED: 7/7/18-Physically Unfit
DIED 04/02/20


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Re: Serjeant William Alfred Bower 202376-Help Please
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2022, 05:46:08 PM »
He also received this medal, which I cannot identify.

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Re: Serjeant William Alfred Bower 202376-Help Please
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2022, 11:19:05 AM »
Photo turned, cropped and adjusted as best I can for you.
Cliff
« Last Edit: November 04, 2022, 11:21:27 AM by rafboy »
Cliff P Son of 3525679 Sgt Arthur Phillips 1st Bn Manchester Regiment and RAPC

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Re: Serjeant William Alfred Bower 202376-Help Please
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2022, 11:53:30 AM »
thank you.

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Re: Serjeant William Alfred Bower 202376-Help Please
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2022, 02:35:43 PM »
Hi,

I am researching my Great Grandfather 202376 Serjeant William Alfred Bower. I have just finished getting his grave sorted with the fantastic people of the CWGC, where he now has a fitting headstone.


He served in the Manchester regiment 1884-1891 and then again 1914-18, where he was medically discharged, receiving a Silver War Badge(which I have yet to find) number B54097. I cannot find any medal entitlement for WW1 despite him serving in that period. If anybody can tell me whether he would have been entitled to any medals,it would be greatly appreciated.


ENLISTED: ROYAL LANCASHIRE RESERVE REGT 26/03/1900
DISCHARGED: 25/03/1901

RE-ENLISTED:7/9/14 5rH (RES) BN MANCHESTER  REGT PROMOTED TO SGT 16/9/14
DISCHARGED: 7/7/18-Physically Unfit
DIED 04/02/20



Hi Jasper,
The service medals for the Great War were only provided to men who had served overseas.  I've followed this case with InFromTheCold and it's wonderful that relatives are taking such close interest in a new commemoration.  I haven't checked the service records but presume you have found Sgt Bower solely served at home in 1914-18.
I'm not sure what the bravery at sea medal relates to - other than the obvious.  You could try British Medals Forum
Welcome to the forum
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Re: Serjeant William Alfred Bower 202376-Help Please
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2022, 08:47:30 PM »
Thanks Tim. I need to find out what badges he would have had at the time as i want to frame the picture, his medal and his Regimental badges.