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laura74

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Identifying this man?!
« on: August 31, 2011, 04:09:39 PM »
I am trying to put a name to this man in my grandmother's locket. He seems to have belonged to the Manchesters and then later served in the RFC. You help would be much appreciated!

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Re: Identifying this man?!
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2011, 05:02:44 PM »
Hi Laura74
Welcome to the forum.
To help I've made the photos bigger for you to make easier for people to see them.
Good luck with Identifying him

If you click on the photos it will make them a little bigger.

Timberman
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 05:04:39 PM by timberman »

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Re: Identifying this man?!
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2011, 06:27:51 PM »
hiya laura.
can you tell us something about your grandmother,where she was living,age,name etc at the time,it could help with the ID.

mack ;D

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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2011, 08:30:04 PM »
Mack,

If its any help in trying to ID him, I would add the following.

The first coloured photo shows him with Manchetser Regt collars but still with his OTC cap badge, not sure which.

The second photo shows him with Manchester Regiment collars with a 'T' below, indicating a Territorial Force Battalion.
He has an RFC cap badge and is also a RFC qualified pilot.

Both photos are pre-1917 uniform with cuff rankings.

regards

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2011, 10:13:21 PM »
thanks simon.
thats helped me to eliminate another from my list and possibly a couple more later

mack ;D

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Re: Identifying this man?!
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2011, 09:28:58 AM »
The first picture looks like he's wearing, the badge (Fleur de lys) of the 7th territorial Battalion of the Manchester Regiment.

 
« Last Edit: September 03, 2011, 11:51:42 AM by themonsstar »

Tony1/612742

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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2011, 08:06:42 AM »
Candidate for the mystery man:

Capt Grant Ross-Bain 190 Sq RFC. Formerly 2nd Lieutenant 7th Manchester Regmt, D coy. An original officer with the 7th Manchesters who shipped off to Egypt in 1914. I cannot find another candidate or this officer.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2011, 09:50:33 AM by Tony1/612742 »

laura74

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« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2011, 05:39:25 PM »
We were very intrigued with the information you found. We would love to see a photo if you have found one and if you have any suggestions where to look to find any further info about him and his family.

Sorry we didn't get back with the info on my mum's Grandmother, trying to find time together impossible at mo. If this info will still be of interest here it is:
Ida Margurite Haill Baylis
5 Catherine Street
Winton
Eccles


Age:5/9/1896
 

Tony1/612742

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« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2011, 07:17:02 PM »
Thanks for the address which will be important in this. There is another possible which I first discounted but on futher digging could be him. Lieutenant George Chadwick 7th Mcr's and latter Capt RFC resided Openshaw. I thought he to be too old though (acting Capt and Company commander, must be 25 -35 years old for that) but I cannot prove it. Ross-Bain was an unmarried 2nd Lieutenant and the right age for the piccys for 1914 and the romance with an 18 year old sweetheart. Ross-bain was a southerner (The Nook, 25 Foster Rd, Chiswick) probably working in Manchester but I don't know where. This needs to be pogressed though the census records now I think.
« Last Edit: October 02, 2011, 07:27:20 PM by Tony1/612742 »

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2011, 09:22:24 PM »
Hi
I don't think it can be George Chadwick, your right that he is to old for the photos.

Photo below is of the 7th Bn in 1914, taken from the book
With the Manchesters in the East.

On this picture I cut it a bit short and G Chadwick is middle row 2nd from the left.

Timberman
« Last Edit: October 02, 2011, 09:23:59 PM by timberman »

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« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2011, 02:48:34 PM »
A Mrs G. Ross-Bain was listed at 9 Hooley Range, Heaton Moor in the 1925 phone book (Grant Ross-Bain had married a Marjorie Boyd-King at Brentford in 1919).

He was born c.1893 (possibly in Australia) and died 1962 in Devon aged 69.
The flowers left thick at nightfall in the wood
This Eastertide call into mind the men,
Now far from home, who, with their sweethearts, should
Have gathered them and will do never again.

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« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2011, 03:00:19 PM »
ida married hamilton irwin in 1918
the young man in her locket must have meant a great deal to her,for her to keep his pictures all those years,even after she married,is it possible he died in the war.

mack ;D

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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2011, 06:29:09 PM »
Thank you for all this info, we found it very interesting. The story we heard was that it was her fiance who died in the war, but this is third hand info.

do you know if the Ross-Bain's had any children?

We have found out about Ida's future with Hamilton.

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« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2011, 07:29:03 PM »
Thank you for all this info, we found it very interesting. The story we heard was that it was her fiance who died in the war, but this is third hand info.

do you know if the Ross-Bain's had any children?

We have found out about Ida's future with Hamilton.
i would go along with that laura,it would explain why your gt nan kept the pictures,theres another reason why i think he was killed in the war,he sent her a picture when he was commissioned and another when he gained his wings,but there were no more photos after that,which could mean he died early in the war,its just a thought.

mack ;D

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2011, 12:20:24 PM »
Bit of a coincidence that both Grant Ross-Bain and Hamilton Irwin were Australians....

G Ross-Bain & Co, Automobile Engineers, Factors. 91 Heaton Moor Rd, 1923.

He made several trips to Africa (Sudan).

The only Ross-Bain births I've found are:
 
Ross-Bain  Cecil Grant  (Wilkins)  Kensington  Dec 1917   
Ross-Bain  Marjorie G  (Fleming)  Brentford  Mar 1921
Ross-Bain  Thomas  (Fleming)  Hammersmith   Dec 1921   
Ross-Bain  Pamela  (Fleming)  Stockport  Mar 1925   
Ross-Bain  Ronald  (Fleming)  Staines  Jun 1927   
Ross-Bain  Peter  (Fleming)  Brentford  Jun 1928
Ross-Bain  John D  (Fleming)  Hammersmith  Mar 1932
Ross-Bain  Campbell (Fleming)  Surrey N.W.  Mar 1938

Mother's maiden name is in brackets. 
The flowers left thick at nightfall in the wood
This Eastertide call into mind the men,
Now far from home, who, with their sweethearts, should
Have gathered them and will do never again.