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nthornton1979

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Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« on: February 04, 2011, 05:16:20 PM »
Hi folks,

I'm looking for information involving the 1/8th Manchester's on the 27th March 1918. I already have the war diary but was wondering if there is any other record of the fighting. I have an officer Military Cross group in my collection which was awarded for his actions on this day. I've drawn a blank on finding any account of the fighting (apart from the war diary)


I also have his personal war time diary, hand drawn maps, named photo postcards and photographs of 8th battalion officers, aswell as other items. Also, he became a best selling author and was friends with George Orwell (who wrote about/complimented the Officer in one of his books).. I have only recently discovered all this and have enjoyed peicing it all together. Oh, And I have a book full of poems that he wrote from the trenches (some of which are very moving).. I thought they were excellent and then my research uncovered that he became an author. That explained it !

I'm in the procress of compiling a write-up with photos and can post it on here if it's of any interest ?



Cheers
Neil

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2011, 06:10:14 PM »
hi neill, check out the main site  link ,http://www.themanchesters.org/8th%20batt.htm ,and feel free to post any photos, tonyrod

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2011, 07:03:59 PM »
Hi Neil

and welcome to the forum

you certainly seem to have an excellent collection there. who is the officer?



I'm in the procress of compiling a write-up with photos and can post it on here if it's of any interest ?



Cheers
Neil


It certainly is of interest and of course you can
cheers

chris
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nthornton1979

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2011, 09:19:35 PM »
Thanks guys,

The officer is Leuitenant Neville Aldridge Holdaway but for his books he used a pseudonym, see link below
 
http://gadetection.pbworks.com/w/page/7931615/Temple-Ellis,%20NA

I may just post what I have for now, along with the pics. It'll probably be a while before I get everything laid out as I want it  ::)

Neil

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2011, 12:03:46 AM »
“One of the ablest Marxist writers we possess” says George Orwell

crikey!  i like him already!

i will have a look on the 42nd Div history to see if anything of interest comes up

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2011, 09:24:23 AM »
just had a quick search,

SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 11 DECEMBER, 1915. 12415

The Manchester Regiment.
Private Arthur Bennett Wightman, from
the Inns of Court Officers Training Corps, to
be Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Lance-Corporal Frederick Collier, from
the Inns of Court Officers Training Corps, to
be Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Private Christian Carl Lorenzen, from the
Inns of Court Officers Training Corps, to be
Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Private Edward Garner Hoal, from the
Artists Rifles Officers Training Corps, to be
Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Private Neville Aldridge Holdaway, from
the Artists Rifles Officers Training Corps, to
be Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Private Richard Paitson Porter, from the
Inns of Court Officers Training Corps, to be
Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Private Cuthbert Raymond Newton, from
the Artists Rifles Officers Training Corps, to
be Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Private John Stuart Mayer, from the Inns
of Court Officers Training Corps, to be
Second Lieutenant. Dated 6th December,1915.

Private Samuel Thorp, from the Inns of
Court Officers Training Corps, to be Second
Lieutenant. Dated 6th December, 1915.

10966 SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 16 SEPTEMBER, 1918
Military Cross

Lt. Neville Aldridge Holdaway, Manch. R.
For conspicuous gallantry and devotion
to duty. When this officer observed that
the officer in charge of an important advanced
post had become a casualty, he immediately
went up through a heavy barrage
and took command. He organised and controlled
the fire of the garrison with such
effect that the enemy began to waver, so
he promptly advanced, inflicting severe
casualties; but, finding them too numerous,
he withdrew, after ascertaining their dispositions.
His courage and coolness
throughout the whole operations were very
marked
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nthornton1979

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 02:57:05 PM »
Thanks Guys  :)

Neil

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 8th Battalion
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2011, 01:39:42 PM »
Seeing your comments, I wonder if you can help me.  My Great Uncle, on his MIC is listed as discharged on the 25.2.18. and I think with a Silver Star.  Ernest Cowley, Pte. enlisted 31/12/14.  (I think the Silver Star was for injuries received??)

His discharge is listed as AO265/18   and para2a1  and ListH580/1.

He was with the Lancashier Fusilliers (Manchester Regiment??)T7, 281107

I got some info at the NA Kew last week but did not have enough time.... They suggested I look at WO123-59-17, I "think" to explain on what grounds he was discharged, but time ran out.

Can you help please.

Archibaldrose

 

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 8th Battalion
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2011, 05:47:37 PM »
Seeing your comments, I wonder if you can help me.  My Great Uncle, on his MIC is listed as discharged on the 25.2.18. and I think with a Silver Star.  Ernest Cowley, Pte. enlisted 31/12/14.  (I think the Silver Star was for injuries received??)

His discharge is listed as AO265/18   and para2a1  and ListH580/1.

He was with the Lancashier Fusilliers (Manchester Regiment??)T7, 281107

I got some info at the NA Kew last week but did not have enough time.... They suggested I look at WO123-59-17, I "think" to explain on what grounds he was discharged, but time ran out.

Can you help please.

Archibaldrose

 

Ernest was awarded a Silver War Badge

Silver War Badge    For retirement, or discharge due to sickness or wounds caused by war service, at home or abroad, after 4 August 1914

AO (army order) 265 gives the details of how/why a soldier would be awarded a SWB when being discharged due to bad health, sickness or wounds, paragraph A 1 says (roughly) after service abroad through ill health or disablement

He was in the Lancashire Fusiliers, which is a different regiment to the Manchester Regiment

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Re: Manchester Regiment - 1/8th Battalion 27th March 1918
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2011, 08:56:11 PM »
check out his  battalion if you can it could be on his mic, then check out this link , every chance you will find where he was when wounded,or when he went sick,

http://www.1914-1918.net/lancsfus.htm     hope this helps, tonyrod