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Offline mack

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help from our lasses
« on: January 17, 2008, 02:39:28 PM »
this is a beauty,just the sort of thing our lasses like to get their teeth into
these three were members of the adelphi lads club
francis creegan
william,edward creegan
robert creegan.

they all died in the war
heres their obituarys and the start of the puzzle

william,edward creegan
244926
camel transport[u.coy]
age 23
son of janet creegan.32 allendale st,salford
listed on CWGC as w.e warden+in the AVLs

robert creegan.
11037
15th lancs fus
son of  mrs j.creegan.32 allendale st.salford
listed on CWGC as r.warden,and listed in the 15th lancs fus roll of honour,as r.warden+r.creegan

francis creegan
10527
15th lancs fus
age 24
son of francis+elizabeth creegan.32 allendale st.salford
listed on CWGC and 15th batts roll of honour as creegan.

they live at the same address but have different parents,and two of them have changed their names by 1918.

mack :)




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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2008, 03:26:21 PM »
Hi Mack  ;D

There is the birth of a William Creegan born 1st Qtr. 1895 in Salford

Robert Creegan born was born Chorley according to SDGW.  The only birth that would appear to marry up, in first glance, is one in 4th Qtr of 1903 ???

Francis Creegan born Salford registered in 3rd Qtr of 1892 and appears in the household of his Uncle on the 1901 Census RG13/3730 Folio 6 Page 4

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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2008, 03:28:32 PM »
i can't find that Carmel Transport, aged 23, anywhere.............
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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2008, 03:37:31 PM »
hi mack, nice one are we looking at  3 brothers and three sisters
one pair married and two later?

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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2008, 03:40:56 PM »
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it!  No matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and with your own common sense" ~ Buddha

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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2008, 03:56:50 PM »
........They didn't all live at the same address

CWGC for Francis Creegan

Son of Francis and Elizabeth Creegan, of 32, Allendale St., Salford

husband of Mary Elizabeth Creegan, of 26, Allendale St., Salford,
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2008, 04:08:27 PM »
Francis' Daddy is in 1891 he is living with his brother Thomas and the rest on the family in Salford RG12/3218 Folio 5 Page 4 and would appear to marry Elizabeth Higham in the Qtr to Sept of that year.

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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2008, 04:11:48 PM »
Francis Jnr marries Mary Elizabeth Clowes in 3rd Qtr. 1915  :'( he wasn't even married a year when he died.
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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2008, 04:28:51 PM »
 did the parents of the three soldiers  live at 32,allendale st,and francis the son at 26,?             i am of searching again,
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2008, 05:12:55 PM »
no joy as yet but
William Edward  and Robert could be brothers mother Janet creegan nee warden
Francis  son of francis + eliz  creegan   cousin to william and robert,
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2008, 05:54:10 PM »
 ::) I can't find Janet or the boys on the 1901 census even  ::) perhaps it's missing.....

Wondered if we should post a query here http://services.salford.gov.uk/forum/index.asp

But maybe thought to give Tis, The Colonel, Liverpool Annie etc a chance to take a look......

I've checked the Historical Directories 1911, but it does not seem to mention numbers over 20 in Allendale Street, perhaps it was not built until after

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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2008, 06:03:00 PM »
Francis Jnr marries Mary Elizabeth Clowes in 3rd Qtr. 1915  :'( he wasn't even married a year when he died.
thats right wendi,francis married mary,elizabeth in 1915.
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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2008, 06:09:49 PM »
sorry,i have their date of birth.
francis.27-5-1892
robert.27-9-1892
william,edward.27-1-95.

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Re: help from our lasses
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2008, 06:21:36 PM »
You don't have where as well Mack do you.

Ancestry does not throw up a Robert Creegan but does show a Robert Warden born 4th Qtr of 1892 in Chorley. ???

Chorley fits with the SDGW entry  ;D
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2008, 06:29:33 PM »
Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1891
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CREEGAN Francis HIGHAM Elizabeth Salford Christ Church Salford C21/4/353

POSSABLE DEATH OF WILLIAM CREEGAN DIED SEPT 1897 AGED 49 SALFORD
COULD HE BE THE FATHER TO ROBERT AND WILLIAM EDWARD.      FREEBMD
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