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City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« on: April 27, 2010, 07:31:13 PM »
A few months ago I suggested to mack that we should try and identify as many of the men on the photographs in the City Battalions book. I figured that if we all contributed we could put more names to faces. It turned out that mack had already carried out a lot of the leg work for this several years ago. With his permission I've copied his work into the below posts. Would anyone with additional names please contribute to the post?

Thanks in advance

16th Battalion

Bugle Band
sgt Thomas Burke (7171), front row 4th left
Capt/adj E.G Sotham, front row 5th left
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 02:30:27 PM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 07:34:22 PM »
17th Battalion

Bugle Band
L/Cpl A. Hooley, 2nd row 1st right
2nd Lt R. F. Mansergh, 2nd row 1st left
Capt J.J. Whitehead, 2nd row 2nd left
RSM H. Coates, 2nd row 2nd right

A Coy, Platoon II
CQMS H. Waddington, 2nd row 4th left
2nd Lt W. R. Tonge, 2nd row 4th right
L/Sgt R. Harburn, 2nd row 2nd left
Sgt J. McMenemy, 2nd row 3rd right
Sgt C. Gould, 2nd row 3rd left

B Coy, Platoon V
Sergeant 8418 William S Butterworth, 2nd row, 6th left (killed in action 1st of July 1916 at Montauban).

B Coy, Platoon VI
Sgt P.H. Jones, 2nd row 4th right

B Coy, Platoon VII
Cpl W. Fox 3rd row 1st left
Cpl F.C. Bennington, 2nd row 3rd right

C Coy, Platoon I
Pte H. L. Bellamy, back row 1st left

C Coy, Platoon XI
Pte Reginald Frank Brereton, believed to be back row, 12th from left

D Coy, Platoon XIII
Pte George William Fidler (incorrectly named as JW Fiddler in book), back row 8th from left

D Coy, Platoon XV
Cpl P. Robinson, 2nd row 4th right
Pte J. Emerson, back row 4th left

D Coy, Platoon XVI
Cpl H. Palmer, 2nd row 1st left
Pte C. Critchlow, front row 6th right

E Coy, Platoon XVII
Lt T. Etchells, 2nd row 4th right
Cpl E. Walker, 3rd row 1st left
Cpl F. Mathews, 2nd row 2nd left
2nd Lt W.B. Purvis, 2nd row 5th left
CSM J. Gale, 2nd row 3rd right
CQMS P.J. McKellen, 2nd row 3rd left
L/Sgt J.C. Pinder, 2nd row 2nd left
Sgt H.J. Butler, 2nd row 2nd right

Supplementary Photo:
Private 9499 Walter Gibson, seated front row, second from the left (E Coy, Platoon XVII)

E Coy, Platoon XVIII
L/Sgt F.H Silcock, 2nd row 4th left
2nd Lt A.G. Cameron, 2nd row 4th right
Pte A. Hurst, back row 4th left

E Coy, Platoon XIX
Cpl J. Braznell, 2nd row 1st right [M/C Police]
Cpl S.A. Hughes, 2nd row 2nd right
2nd Lt B.B. Dowling, 2nd row 4th left

E Coy Platoon XX
Cpl J. Brierley, 2nd row 2nd left [M/C Police]
Cpl F.H. Sidwell, 2nd row 2nd right [M/C Police]
2nd Lt A.H. Hiller, 2nd row 4th right
Pte, Horace Raymond Hardman, 1st row 2nd left

« Last Edit: February 01, 2011, 12:55:47 PM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 07:36:05 PM »
18th Battalion

Bugle Band
Major H.A.S. Barkworth, front row 4th right
Sgt P. Ogden, front row 3rd right
Cpl H. Eastwood, front row 2nd right

A Coy, Platoon I
Sgt A.L. Friday, front row 3rd left
Capt C.H. Wylde, front row 4th left
Lt L. Renshaw, front row 4th right

A Coy, Platoon II
2nd Lt H.B Harrison, 2nd row 5th left

A Coy, Platoon III
Lt H.G.S. Bower, 2nd row 3rd right
Sgt H. Bowers, 2nd row 3rd left
Cpl H.  Branston, 2nd row 2nd right
L/Cpl R. Wiggans, 2nd row 2nd left

A Coy, Platoon IV
CQMS W.N. Waddicor, 2nd row 3rd left
2 L/T H.B. Harrison 2nd Row 3rd Right
C.S.M. Murnaghan 2nd Row 2nd Right
Cpl J. Walmesley 1st Row 4th Right

1st Supplementary Photo (18th Battalion, A Coy)
Pte Joseph Henry Henshall, 2nd row from the back, 4th right

B Coy, Platoon V
Lt W.P. Knowles, 2nd Row 3rd Right

B Coy, Platoon VII
L/CPL A. Fletcher, 1st row 1st left
Cpl N.N. Parry, 1st row 2nd left
Capt G. Lupton, 1st row 4th left
2nd Lt J.S. Beaumont, 1st row 3rd right

B Coy, Platoon VIII
2L/T T.J. Kelly, 2nd Row 3rd Right

C Coy, Platoon IX
Lt S.E. Woollam, 2nd Row 6th Right

C Coy, Platoon X
Lt P.A. Blythe, 2nd Row 4th Right

C Coy, Platoon XI
Captain G. Heathcote, 2nd Row 5th Right
Pte Albert Ingham, Back row 6th from right
Pte Alfred Longshaw, Back row 4th from right

C Coy, Platoon XII
Lt H.H. Crawshaw, 2nd Row 4th Right
Cpl E. Darbyshire, 3rd Row 4th Left

D Coy, Platoon XIII
2 L/T P.G.D. Haworth, 2nd Row 5th Right
L/Sgt W.B Davies 2nd Row 6th Right
Sgt J Connor Row2 4th Right
CQMS J Ralston Row1 1st Left (Standing)

D Coy, Platoon XIV
Lt H.G. Watson, 2nd Row 4th Right
Cpl W. Newton, 2nd Row 2nd Right

D Coy, Platoon XV
Pte F. Woodall, back row 4th right
CQMS J. Ralston, 2nd row 3rd left
2nd Lt A.A.F. Harris, 2nd row 4th left

D Coy, Platoon XVI
CSM G. Waite, front row 3rd left
Lt R. Hobkirk, front row 4th left

E Coy, Platoon XVII
L/Cpl Alex Stewart, Second row, 3rd from the right
CSM G. Evans, front row 4th left
Capt  W. Payne, front row 5th left
2nd Lt R.D. England, front row 4th right

E Coy, Platoon XVIII
2 L/T H.A. Powell, 1st Row 4th Right

E Coy, Platoon XIX
2 L/T R. Wallwork, 1st Row 5th Right
Sgt G.C. Neill, 1st Row 4th Right
Pte William Batchen Dunn, 1st person, 2nd row from top

E Coy, Platoon XX
2 L/T B.T.N. Tavare, 1st Row 5th Right
Sgt J. Cush, 1st Row 4th Right
« Last Edit: April 29, 2010, 09:10:13 AM by kingo »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 07:37:26 PM »
19th Battalion

Bugle Band
L/Sgt W.H. Harrison, front row 4th right
L/Cpl A. Wallwork, 2nd row 1st left

A Coy, Platoon I
Cpl, W.J. Wallis, 2nd row 5th left
Sgt H. Rothwell, 2nd row 6th left
Pte H.F. Moe, front row 4th left
Pte Osborne George Marsh MM, Back Row 9 (posted missing 31 July 1917)

A Coy Platoon II
Platoon sgt 11507 Leonard Charnock, 2nd row 4th left
Pioneer sgt 11565 Henry G. Hayes, 2nd row 7th left

A Company Platoon IV
Private 11720 Henry Leslie Birchall, 4th row, 5th from the left

B Coy Platoon V
Platoon sgt 12517 Frederick Walters, 2nd row 3rd right

B Coy, Platoon VI
Sgt C.E. Entwistle, 2nd row 3rd left
Cpl T. Ryder, 2nd row 2nd right
Pte J. Britten, 3rd row 6th left
Pte H. Pugh, back row 6th right
Pte W. Cotton, front row 5th left
Pte L. Robinson, front row 4th left
Pte E. Magee, back row 4th right
Pte W. Dawson, 3rd row 4th right
Pte E. Jones, back row 5th left
2nd Lt P. La T. Foster, 2nd row 3rd right
Pte W.S. Warden, 3rd row 3rd right
Pte O. Walker, front row 5th right
Pte W. Rothwell, row 6th left
Pte F. Smith, 3rd row 1st right
Pte T.H. Finch, 4th row 1st right
Pte T. Fury, back row 1st right

B Coy, Platoon VIII
Pte A.W. Andrews, back row 4th right
Cpl H.C. Leaver, 2nd row 2nd right
2nd Lt E.W. Mawdsley, 2nd row 5th left
Sgt  L.E. Wilson, 2nd row 4th left
CQMS G.W. Bush, 2nd row 6th left
L/Cpl Arthur Brandreth, 2nd row 2nd left
L/Cpl J. Harmaman, 2nd row 1st right
Pte 11734 W. Baillie, front row, 4th from left (believed to be)

D Coy, Platoon XIII
Pte W. T. Spragg, 19th D Com, Plat XIII, back row second right

D Coy, Platoon XIV
L/Cpl E. Briggs, 2nd row 3rd right
Pte E. Armsby, front row 1st right

E Coy, Platoon XVII
Pte 12790 William Henry Pinkstone, front row 6th from left

Note: the other sgt in B Company Platoon V is supposed to be L/sgt 11873 Francis George Lane [2nd row 3rd left] he was 23 yrs old, but this man looks a lot older than 23. Dubious.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2011, 04:40:48 PM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 07:38:41 PM »
20th Battalion

Bugle Band
Pte W McLornon, middle row 4th left
Pte T [Truck] Marshall, middle row 4th right
Bandsman John Hallows, back row 4th left
Drummer John James Taylor, back row 2nd from right
Bandsman Harry Pimblett, front row 1st left
Sgt J Blacklock, front row 4th left
Cpl A.Burke, front row 4th right

A Coy, Platoon I
Cpl J W. Dalton, 2nd row 3rd right
2nd Lt W. McCulloch, 2nd row 6th right
Pte J Hallows, 3rd row 5th left
Pte Harry Pimblett, back row 3rd left
Pte Osborne George Marsh MM, Back Row 9 (posted missing 31 July 1917)

A Coy, Platoon III
Pte 17032 Arthur Patrick Burke, 3rd row, 4th from right
Cpl 17442 Thomas Nicholson,2nd row, 3rd right
Cpl 17395 John Francis Jones,2nd row, 4th right
Pte 17120 Frank Hill, back row, third from right

B Coy, Platoon V
CQMS Charles W. Lyons (17418), 2nd row 5th left
Cpl Frederick Ludgate (17416), 2nd row 4th right
L/Cpl 17338 James Fildes McGregor Dow, 2nd row from the front, 1st right
L/Cpl 17406 Bertram Leicester, 2nd row from the front, 2nd right
Pte William Edward Barber, front row, 7th from left (KIA 1st July 1916)
Pte James Coyle, 4th row, 5th from right
Sgt Simon Dunn (17340), 2nd row 6th righ

B Coy, Platoon VI
Cpl F.H. Clarke, 2nd row 4th left
Cpl J. Hellawell, 2nd row 5th left
2nd Lt, K.R. Binning, 2nd row 6th left

B Coy Platoon VII
Cpl  Martin Toogood (17510) 2nd row,4th left

C Coy Platoon IX
17730 RQMS J. Pittam, 2nd row 5th left
18386 CSM Albert H. Amor, 2nd row 6th left
17195 CQMS Albert Eli Phippen 2nd row 5th left (he was quite a soldier - enlisted 16th Nov 1914, promoted Cpl same day, promoted Sgt 1st Jan 1915, promoted CQMS 1st Feb 1915, he was ONLY 19 years old)

C Coy Platoon X
17772 Pte (later Sgt) John Thompson, 4th row (up), 4th from right

E Coy, Platoon XVII
CSM T. Clarke, 2nd row 4th left
CQMS R Howard, 2nd row 4th left
Cpl J. Paynting, 2nd row 2nd left
Cpl H. Osborne, 2nd row 3rd right

« Last Edit: January 14, 2012, 05:58:17 AM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 07:40:35 PM »
21st Battalion

Bugle Band
Sgt C. Yearsley, front row 6th right
L/Cpl H. Percival, front row 5th right

A Coy, Platoon III
2nd Lt A. Harris, 2nd row 6th right
Sgt W. Capper, 2nd row 5th right
Cpl A. E. Crossland, 2nd row 5th left

B Coy, Platoon V
Lt H. B. Swallow, 2nd row, 7th right

B Coy, Platoon VI
CSM F. Barlow, 2nd row 5th left
2nd Lt H.C Smith, 2nd row 6th left

B Coy, Platoon VII
Lt N.M. Carstairs, 2nd row 6th left
CQMS J. Stansfield, 2nd row 5th left

B Coy, Platoon VIII
Cpl J.E. Cotgrave, 2nd row 5th right
Lt H.E. Scott, 2nd row 7th left

B Coy, Platoon XIII
Cpl F.O. Makin, 2nd row 6th right

C Coy, Platoon XVII
2nd Lt A.S. Russell, 2nd row 6th right

D Coy, Platoon XIII
2nd Lt F.S. Scrutton, 2nd row 6th left

D Coy, Platoon XVI
Pte James Helme, 4th row 4th left

E Coy, Platoon XVII
Pte Herbert Birtles (19831), Back row far right

E Coy, Platoon XX
Cpl A. Chidley, 2nd row 3rd left
Sgt J. Fish, 2nd row 5th left

E Coy, Platoon XVII
Capt W.M. Marsden, 2nd row 6th left
CSM P. Cassin, 2nd row 4th right
CQMS J.W. Grimshaw, 2nd row 5th left
Sgt F. Johnson, 2nd row 4th left

E Coy, Platoon XVIII
Cpl J.H. Shuttleworth, 2nd row 3rd right
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 07:43:06 PM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 07:42:26 PM »
22nd Battalion

22nd Bn NCOs
RSM John Hargreaves (21380), 2nd from back row, 7th from left (5th from right)

A Coy Platoon II
CQMS C. O. Cottrell, 2nd row 5th right
Cpl, F. Robinson, 2nd row 3rd left
2nd Lt J. W. Eaton, 2nd row 5th left

A Coy Platoon III
RSM John Hargreaves (21380), 2nd row from front, 5th from right
Sgt Joseph Nelson (20177), sat on right of officer

A Coy Platoon IV
Pte, W. Leyland (Incorrectly Layland) 4th row, far left
2nd Lt F A Harrison, 2nd row, 7th right (Platoon Commander)

B Coy, Platoon VII
L/Sgt G. Deardon, 2nd row 4th right
Cpl H. Hadfield, 2nd row 3rd right
Lt D.S. Murray, 2nd row 3rd left
Capt D. Murray, 2nd row 5th left
Pte Joe Lamb, 4th row 11th right

B Coy, Platoon VIII
CSM F. Davies, 2nd row 3rd left
Capt A. Bland, 2nd row 5th right

C Coy, Platoon IX
Cpl F. Torkington, 2nd row 4th left
Capt G.O. Ramsbottom, 2nd row 6th left
Lt W.B. Cushion, 2nd row 7th left

C Coy, Platoon X
CSM G. Vaughan, 2nd row 5th right
2nd Lt J.P.H. Wood, 2nd row 6th right

C Coy, Platoon XI
CQMS L.O. Till, 2nd row 4th right

C Coy, Platoon XII
Pte Gilbert A. Long, front row 1st right
Pte 21076 James Duffy MM, bottom row, far left

D Coy, Platoon XIII
Lt R. Mellor, 2nd row 5th left
Capt F.J. Earles, 2nd row 6th left
RSM J. Hughes, 2nd row 6th right
Cpl A. Gourley, 2nd row 2nd right [M/C Policeman]
Sig/Sgt T. Jackson, 2nd row 3rd right
Sgt A.E. Taylor, 2nd row 4th right [M/C Policeman]

D Coy, Platoon XVI
Pte Walter William Baker, 3rd row 6th left
« Last Edit: December 02, 2010, 11:08:20 AM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 07:43:34 PM »
23rd Battalion

B Coy, Platoon XV
Pte J. Adams, 1st row 1st left

D Coy, Platoon XIII
Cpl 22365 Charles Young, 2nd Row, 2nd Left

E Coy, Platoon XVIII
Pte James Burke, middle row 2nd right
« Last Edit: May 19, 2010, 08:54:32 PM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 09:46:30 PM »
Just wondering if it might be better in it's own section on the site ?. An example; The bugle Band of the 18th Battalion.(Click to enlarge)

Major H.A.S Barkworth, Front Row 4th Right
Sergeant P. Ogden, Front Row 3rd Right
Corporal H. Eastwood, Front Row 2nd Right
« Last Edit: April 27, 2010, 09:54:48 PM by kingo »
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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 11:56:15 PM »
heres a couple more pete.

20th manchesters
B.coy VII platoon
cpl 17510 martin toogood 2nd row,4th left

C.coy IX platoon
17730 RQMS j.pittam 2nd row 5th left
18386 CSM albert,h amor 2nd row 6th left
17195 CQMS albert,eli phippen 2nd row 5th left,he was quite a soldier,he enlisted on the 16th nov 1914 and promoted to cpl the same day,then on the 1st jan 1915 he was promoted to sgt and on 1st feb 1915 he was promoted to CQMS,he was ONLY 19yrs old

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2010, 12:02:19 AM »
this one needs the opinion of others

sgt 17305 joseph burgoyne and L/cpl james,alfred burgoyne were brothers,they were both in B.coy VI platoon.
can anyone spot the resemblance between a sgt and L/cpl in the picture

mack ;D

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2010, 07:34:11 AM »
What a great piece of work. Well done Pete and it goes without saying mack. What a work horse he is. A great resource that hopefully will grow and grow.
best wishes
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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2010, 08:58:11 AM »
James Taylor, Alfred Rogerson and John James Taylor are all on the 20th Battalion B Coy Platoon V 17th Battalion, D Coy, Platoon XIII photo but I can't see them. I'll put their photos on the site and see if anyone with better eyes than me can spot them.

Cheers
Pete
« Last Edit: April 28, 2010, 12:09:56 PM by Pete Th »
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2010, 08:59:06 AM »
James Taylor
Remembering

Pte Sidney Lee (36719), 2nd Battalion, Worcestershire Regt - dow 18.02.17
Sgt Charles Roberts (13668), 11th Bn, Manchester Regiment - kia 18.05.18
Bombardier John Hesford (70065), 147th Heavy Battery, RGA dow - 04.09.18
Pte Sidney Lee (4131324), 8th Bn, Cheshire Regiment -  kia 12.03.41

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Re: City Battalions - Photo Identity Project
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2010, 08:59:23 AM »
Great to see Macks old work coming back up, Cheers Peter .



"can anyone spot the resemblance between a sgt and L/cpl in the picture"

Just for you Mack, the Sgt has three tapes the L/Cpl has one tape  ;D 8)


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