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Offline mack

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from workhouse to warrior
« on: February 12, 2010, 09:00:09 AM »
in 1901,alfred henry buckle was in st.marys workhouse,holloway,he was 6yrs old,his mother sarah,was in holloway prison,then on the 9th may 1910,alfred was placed in st.marys industrial school,hornby rd,holloway and his mother was an inmate in st.johns workhouse,holloway,on 27th august 1910,sarah gave her permission for him to join the army.
alfred joined the 2nd manchesters at mullingar,on 29th aug 1910 as a boy soldier,he was 14yrs 8mths old,he was described by the guardians of the workhouse as having an excellent character.
on 1st november 1911,he was appointed as a bandsman[cornet player]
alfred was retained on home service throughout the war,due to hearing problems,he was posted to the 3rd manchesters at cleethorpes.
he was admitted to 1/4th northern gen hospital,lincoln on 6th feb 1916,suffering from deafness in his right ear
he married miss doris,matilda holson at st.peters church cleethorpes on 4th jan 1917,their son,alfred,maurice was born on 10th oct 1917
residing at 4 heys st,cleethorpes
he was posted to the 1st manchesters on 7-8-19 and discharged on 27-4-1920,by know his deafness had become worst,he took up residence at 29 oxford st,cleethorpes
doris died in 1965 in croydon,aged 68,alfred passed away 17yrs later in 1982 at croydon,aged 87

L/cpl 1942 alfred,henry buckle

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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2010, 09:37:53 AM »
Great piece of work mack !. It is similar to my Gt Grandads story. He was born in 1877 in Macclesfield and orphaned by the time he was 4 Years old and living with his Grandmother. When she died he was sent to the Barnes industrial school. He then joined the Kings Own Royal Lancasters as a boy soldier and went to South Africa, earning the QSA and KSA. He went to France at the outbreak of war in 1914 and was injured in the October. He was discharged the following year. The workhouses and industrial schools must have been ripe recruiting grounds for the Army to escape the poverty. i wonder if there are any recods held anywhere ?.
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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2013, 08:47:59 PM »
Great piece of work mack !. It is similar to my Gt Grandads story. He was born in 1877 in Macclesfield and orphaned by the time he was 4 Years old and living with his Grandmother. When she died he was sent to the Barnes industrial school. He then joined the Kings Own Royal Lancasters as a boy soldier and went to South Africa, earning the QSA and KSA. He went to France at the outbreak of war in 1914 and was injured in the October. He was discharged the following year. The workhouses and industrial schools must have been ripe recruiting grounds for the Army to escape the poverty. i wonder if there are any recods held anywhere ?.

Hi Kingo

I know it's an old post, but I'm researching the lost and wounded from Macclesfield and the surrounding villages... What was the name of your Great Grandfather?

best regards
Steve

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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 10:01:33 PM »
Hi Steve. My Gt Grandfather was 5568 Pte Peter Hunt of the Kings Own Royal Lancasters. Thats him in the front row 2nd Left. After he was orphaned he was sent to the Barnes industrial school from where he joined the Army. After he was invalided out in early 1915 he went to live in Lower Broughton on the Manchester/ Salford border and lived there until his death in 1936. He was born on Arbourhey St in Hurdsfield.
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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2014, 03:48:07 PM »
Hi Steve. My Gt Grandfather was 5568 Pte Peter Hunt of the Kings Own Royal Lancasters. Thats him in the front row 2nd Left. After he was orphaned he was sent to the Barnes industrial school from where he joined the Army. After he was invalided out in early 1915 he went to live in Lower Broughton on the Manchester/ Salford border and lived there until his death in 1936. He was born on Arbourhey St in Hurdsfield.

Thanks Kingo

I'm involved in researching the Great War and it's effects on Macclesfield and the surrounding villages. In conjunction with the council, we're hoping to have a website up and running for the 2014 centennial commemorations. Would you mind if I utilise your photo for your Great Grandfather's profile?
Any further information, photos etc. that you can share would be greatly appreciated and of course, acknowledged (There's no point re-inventing the wheel!)

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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2014, 04:26:58 PM »
Hi Steve, by all means use the photo- I think I have another photo somewhere. I will post it on here if I can find it.
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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2014, 04:56:10 PM »
Steve, This is the other photo mentioned above. That is my Grandad on the right of the photo. Not sure when it was taken.
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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 08:04:04 PM »
Thanks Kingo

I don't know if you were aware, but Peter Hunt actually went to war with 1st Battalion. They disembarked from the S.S. Saturnia at Boulogne, France on 23rd August 1914 - the date recorded on his Medal Index Card. 2nd Battalion, King's Own Royal Lancaster's were still in India when war broke out and didn't reach France until 16th January 1915. I'm assuming he must have transferred back to his old battalion shortly afterwards?

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« Last Edit: January 04, 2014, 08:06:34 PM by silkman3811 »

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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 11:58:02 PM »
Steve. My Gt Grandfather enlisted in 1898 into the Kings Own and in 1908 was appointed as an unpaid Lance corporal in the 2nd battalion. In November 1912 he was posted to the 1st Battalion at home. He left with the 1st battalion to France on the 23rd August 1914  and was severely wounded in October of that year and invalided out in November of 1915. he held the QSA,KSA Mons star, bwm and Victory medal. I have never been able to trace his records-the info i have is from the Kings Own Museum in Lancaster.

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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2014, 11:06:46 PM »
Thanks for that Kingo

I'll let you know the details as soon as I can

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Steve

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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 04:51:37 PM »
Do you have any idea when and where the first photo was taken?

Is it possible to enlarge the photo? Specifically your great grandfather and the man standing 2nd left behind him.
This man looks a bit like my grandfather and appears to have a Manchesters Badge.  Is this a mixed group of NCO's-ie from various Regiments
Or am I imagining all that?

Sue

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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 05:12:45 PM »
Sorry, no idea where/when the photo was taken and the man behind him certainly has a KORL capbadge.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2014, 05:38:59 PM by kingo »
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Re: from workhouse to warrior
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 11:27:49 PM »
Thank you for taking the trouble to reply and enlarge the photo.
I can now see that it isn't my grandfather
And wrong Regiment!But age etc is similiar
Sue