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liverpool annie

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Lieutenant William Thomas Forshaw
« on: September 17, 2009, 01:46:42 AM »


You guys probably know all this already ... but for people who don't ........  :)

William Forshaw survived WWI and was living in Holyport, Berkshire when he died at the comparatively young age of 53 on 26 March 1943 and was buried in Touchen End Cemetery, Bray, near Maidenhead, in a grave that was not marked.
It was thought that William Forshaw had been buried in Ashton-under-Lyne and many publications reflected this. But the Victoria Cross historian, Tom Medcraft, was convinced he was not buried in Ashton and after a nine year search, discovered Forshaw was in fact buried in Touchen End.

This discovery was made through the efforts of Mrs Pat Curtis, Senior Librarian at Maidenhead Library, who found the undertaker, Pymm's of Maidenhead, who had buried William Forshaw and whose records showed he was buried in Touchen End Cemetery.

However, the undertaker's records did not show the exact location of the grave as their original records had been lost when they moved premises some forty years earlier. Further research by Tom Medcraft and Pat Curtis revealed that the churchyard seemed to be laid out in 'date order' for the years during which William Forshaw had been buried and his grave was one of five in an area of the cemetery which was seriously overgrown.

As a result of the grave being located and the area cleared, a ceremony was held in Touchen End Cemetery on Monday, 17th October 1994 to erect and dedicate a headstone to Lieutenant William Forshaw VC, by members of the 1st Bn. The King's Regiment ( Manchester & Liverpool ) - which was formed from his own Manchester Regiment - who erected the memorial stone. Also present were Lieutenant Colonel Christopher Hodges, Commanding Officer of the 1st Bn. The King's Regiment ( Manchester & Liverpool ), Brigadier Geremy Gaskell, the Lord Mayor and Lady Mayoress of Bray, and the Vicar of Bray, who carried out the service.

The Victoria Cross of William Forshaw resides at the "The Museum of the Manchester's" Ashton-under-Lyne Town Hall, Manchester, together with his campaign medals. Also on display is a sword presented to him by the Mayor of Barrow - his home town - when he was given the Freedom of the City in 1916, and a beautiful silver tea service which was presented to him by the Headmaster of North Manchester Grammar School in October 1915, where he had served as a teacher prior to going to war. The room in the museum which houses his medals and other presentation gifts, is called "The Forshaw Room".

[ London Gazette, 9 September 1915 ]. The Vinyard, Gallipoli, 7 - 9 August 1915, Lieutenant William Thomas Forshaw, 9th Bn, Manchester Regiment.

During the period 7/9 August 1915 at Gallipoli, when holding the north-west corner of the "Vineyard" against heavy attacks by the Turks, Lieutenant Forshaw not only directed his men but personally threw bombs continuously for over 40 hours. When his detachment was relieved, he volunteered to continue directing the defence. Later, when the Turks captured a portion of the trench, he shot three of them and recaptured it. It was due to his fine example and magnificant courage that his very important position was held.
William Forshaw was invested with his Victoria Cross by King George V at Buckingham Palace on the 18th October 1915.

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=7830094

Offline Robert Bonner

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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2009, 11:54:27 AM »
Take everything you read with caution.  So much nonsense has been written about dear old Bill Forshaw.

After agreement had been reached for the Regiment to erect a headstone we were unable to locate the actual area in Touchen End cemetery where Major Forshaw was buried.  In cooperation with the then Vicar of Bray, I selected a suitable spot in this small cemetery where there were no gravestones and the position was in the open for all to see.

The silver tea service which he is supposed to have been presented with is not held by the museum.  Indeed nobody alive has ever heard of it or seen it.  The medal room in the museum is not named after him.  The Forshaw Gallery is a seperate gallery in the museum. 

Forgive my irritation but I do wish people would get  it right occasionally.  The full biography of our hero, plus lots of photographs, is contained in 'Volunteer Infantry of Ashton-under-Lyne'  Copies are available from the muse.um
Robert

liverpool annie

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Re: Lieutenant William Thomas Forshaw
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 02:13:47 PM »


Sorry to upset you Robert !  :-\

I just wrote what I found on the Victoria Cross site

http://www.victoriacross.org.uk/bbforsha.htm

...... at least this has given you the opportunity to set things straight here !

Annie  :)

timberman

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Re: Lieutenant William Thomas Forshaw
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 04:47:29 PM »
Hi Annie

You had done a post on him before.

http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=2119.0

Timberman :)

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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 05:14:30 PM »
Dear Annie.
You haven't upset me.  I just like to get it right.  I have emailed Ian who runs the victoria cross site and offered to let him a correct version concerning our Ashton hero.
Watch this space.
Robert

liverpool annie

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Re: Lieutenant William Thomas Forshaw
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 05:53:52 PM »
Hi Annie

You had done a post on him before.

http://themanchesters.org/forum/index.php?topic=2119.0

Timberman :)

Must be me age Neil !!  :P

Ah well at least it's given Robert a chance to get things put right !!  :)

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Re: Lieutenant William Thomas Forshaw
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 06:05:21 PM »
That's true ;D

I mentioned it as the other post has the photo's on it.

Neil :)

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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 11:45:47 AM »
That's true ;D

I mentioned it as the other post has the photo's on it.

Neil :)

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